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lukes_89
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1204 Location: sunshine coast
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hey guys finally got my car running today  . onbe problem is that put the starter motor in and when u turn it over it makes like a grinding noise i have put all the plates that wer eon last engine in im sure and its the same starter motor any one have any idea why this would be happening??
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bigrig91
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1308 Location: Redcliffe
Vehicle: 96 LWB Vit, 2.5L powerhouse
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does it turn over, start then make a grinding noise for 2 to 3 seconds then stop?? if so, you will just need to pull it out, take it apart, note the way the fork that throws the bearing in and out came out like, then clean and grease it all up again. put it back together and bam all fixed.
hope that helps.
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lukes_89
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1204 Location: sunshine coast
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No when you go to start makes a loud squelling noise amd sometimes it tries to turn over and again makes a really loud clunking noise. When push start its fine something to do wqith starter.
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oozuk
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1452 Location: bethania QLD
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did you use a sierra starter or a vitara reduction starter ? because the sierra starter foul's on the 1600 block and requires grinding of either the block or the starter motor, if this isnt done then it causes misalignment of the starter motor and incorrect meshing of the starter to the ring gear.
So your choices are either grind back your starter where it fouls on the block, or
Find a 1600 reduction starter as they bolt straight in and clear everything and have more torque than the 1300 sierra starter, thus making them a better starter and longer lasting
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lukes_89
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1204 Location: sunshine coast
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oozuk wrote: did you use a sierra starter or a vitara reduction starter ? because the sierra starter foul's on the 1600 block and requires grinding of either the block or the starter motor, if this isnt done then it causes misalignment of the starter motor and incorrect meshing of the starter to the ring gear.
So your choices are either grind back your starter where it fouls on the block, or
Find a 1600 reduction starter as they bolt straight in and clear everything and have more torque than the 1300 sierra starter, thus making them a better starter and longer lasting hey im not sure as its a new engine that could quiet possibly be the problem i will check the old block and see if he has grinded the block down as i have only ownd the car for like a month and it has always had the swap thanks for your help will let you know how i go. Do you know where i could get a new starter from either secondhand or new. Have rang a few places and no one seems to have one.
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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you rang me this afternoon didnt you...
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lukes_89
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1204 Location: sunshine coast
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i spoke to 2 places today and no said that they had one, someone said they think they have one and will ring tomorrow if they do hopefully thats you and can get one.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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oozuk wrote: did you use a sierra starter or a vitara reduction starter ? because the sierra starter foul's on the 1600 block and requires grinding of either the block or the starter motor, if this isnt done then it causes misalignment of the starter motor and incorrect meshing of the starter to the ring gear.
So your choices are either grind back your starter where it fouls on the block, or
Find a 1600 reduction starter as they bolt straight in and clear everything and have more torque than the 1300 sierra starter, thus making them a better starter and longer lasting
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bron5on
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 285 Location: Hobart
Vehicle: SJ80
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oozuk wrote: did you use a sierra starter or a vitara reduction starter ? because the sierra starter foul's on the 1600 block and requires grinding of either the block or the starter motor, if this isnt done then it causes misalignment of the starter motor and incorrect meshing of the starter to the ring gear.
So your choices are either grind back your starter where it fouls on the block, or
Find a 1600 reduction starter as they bolt straight in and clear everything and have more torque than the 1300 sierra starter, thus making them a better starter and longer lasting
Sorry to hijack but does anyone have a part number for the 1600 reduction starter? All the vit ones i've found down here have the same starter as my sierra. I'm running a modified colt (not 100% sure) starter but i'd prefer the 1600 option. I didn't fancy taking to my block with the grinder to fit the sierra one! Cheers!
Bronson
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BenT

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Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
Vehicle: 85 SJ413
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bron5on wrote: Sorry to hijack but does anyone have a part number for the 1600 reduction starter?
M1T72481 31100-60A20
Ben
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oozuk
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1452 Location: bethania QLD
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its from the efi 1600 vitara
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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lukes_89 wrote: i spoke to 2 places today and no said that they had one, someone said they think they have one and will ring tomorrow if they do hopefully thats you and can get one.
i dont have one but i am waiting on a shipment , they shouldnt be too far away , possibly in the next couple of days.
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bron5on
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 285 Location: Hobart
Vehicle: SJ80
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BenT wrote: bron5on wrote: Sorry to hijack but does anyone have a part number for the 1600 reduction starter? M1T72481 31100-60A20 Ben
Thanks muchly! My vit 16v vit motor came with the chunkier sierra style starter. And when I tried to buy a new starter from the auto elecs they couldn't get the slimmer style model and told me they had probably been superseded?
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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hey i can get the reduction starters.... brand new
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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89_tintop wrote: hey i can get the reduction starters.... brand new
I was waiting for you to notice this.
Can you get me a price on a Gv SQ625 please?
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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89_tintop wrote: hey i can get the reduction starters.... brand new
how much $$$
cheers
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bron5on
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 285 Location: Hobart
Vehicle: SJ80
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ajsr wrote: 89_tintop wrote: hey i can get the reduction starters.... brand new how much $$$ cheers
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