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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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MacDaddy wrote: karlmarkiewicz wrote: MacDaddy wrote: I also, would never put a Ryco on any Zook i own !  Out of curiosity, are the genuine suzuki brand filters the only good one? Because Repco (my local outlet) doesn't sell them  In My opinion, Yes ! No they wont sell them, you will have to go to a Suzuki parts Centre, they have come down in price a fair whack, and are only $16 now... here is some part numbers if you need them, just scroll down a bit - http://www.suzistore.com.au/onlinestore ... 91745.htmlOne more thing, do you have to get the filters shipped to you from that site? Because then the total price would be over $26
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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karlmarkiewicz wrote: MacDaddy wrote: karlmarkiewicz wrote: MacDaddy wrote: I also, would never put a Ryco on any Zook i own !  Out of curiosity, are the genuine suzuki brand filters the only good one? Because Repco (my local outlet) doesn't sell them  In My opinion, Yes ! No they wont sell them, you will have to go to a Suzuki parts Centre, they have come down in price a fair whack, and are only $16 now... here is some part numbers if you need them, just scroll down a bit - http://www.suzistore.com.au/onlinestore ... 91745.htmlOne more thing, do you have to get the filters shipped to you from that site? Because then the total price would be over $26 I would think any Suzuki Parts/Service Centre would have them in stock... but they may add their cut as well... some people bulk order from them, as the ship parts OZ wide, to save on postage... at least you know what you will pay for parts, at the counter with them... 
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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atari4x4 wrote: karlmarkiewicz wrote: larry wrote: i just got 5 blinks - pause - 2 blinks but im a bit confused as i cant see a 52 in those tables :S what am i missing here Yeah, I'm not too sure to be honest. You mind need atari4x4 for that one, i think he has a service manual. sure it wasn't 25 & you missed the first one  post a vid if you can fairly sure it was 52 but i will make sure i found this http://www.troublecodes.net/suzuki/ and this http://www.rhinopower.org/diag/cel.html both showing fault 52 as injectors
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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MacDaddy wrote: karlmarkiewicz wrote: MacDaddy wrote: karlmarkiewicz wrote: MacDaddy wrote: I also, would never put a Ryco on any Zook i own !  Out of curiosity, are the genuine suzuki brand filters the only good one? Because Repco (my local outlet) doesn't sell them  In My opinion, Yes ! No they wont sell them, you will have to go to a Suzuki parts Centre, they have come down in price a fair whack, and are only $16 now... here is some part numbers if you need them, just scroll down a bit - http://www.suzistore.com.au/onlinestore ... 91745.htmlOne more thing, do you have to get the filters shipped to you from that site? Because then the total price would be over $26 I would think any Suzuki Parts/Service Centre would have them in stock... but they may add their cut as well... some people bulk order from them, as the ship parts OZ wide, to save on postage... at least you know what you will pay for parts, at the counter with them...  Yeah, that's true. Btw. I Just picked up my O2 Sensors from bursons and they only have one wire coming from them and they have a circular style connector. Unless im look at the wrong part on my car, my O2 sensors have 4 wires and a square connector? Did they give me the wrong part?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:42 am |
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wrong part, sounds like they are early G16b ones.
single wire is non heated, 4 wire is a heated o2 sensor.
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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atari4x4 wrote: wrong part, sounds like they are early G16b ones.
single wire is non heated, 4 wire is a heated o2 sensor. The single wired one i bought was $83 each. Turns out the 4 wired ones are $153 each, i almost thought Bursons was cheaper than everywhere else.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:04 pm |
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should have just bought the ones i linked on ebay. 
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:50 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: should have just bought the ones i linked on ebay.  I am buying them right now. I am trusting you 
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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atari4x4 wrote: should have just bought the ones i linked on ebay.  Actually, what is your opinion on Universal ones where you have to wire the plugs on your self? Is it easy enough for me to do and will they work just as good? Because they seem to be a lot cheaper, here look: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Universa ... 8a3&_uhb=1
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:03 pm |
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karlmarkiewicz wrote: atari4x4 wrote: should have just bought the ones i linked on ebay.  Actually, what is your opinion on Universal ones where you have to wire the plugs on your self? Is it easy enough for me to do and will they work just as good? Because they seem to be a lot cheaper, here look: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Universa ... 8a3&_uhb=1??
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Sorry I missed the question, at work at the moment & in my phone... Will try & remember to reply later.
Typically the universal ones don't last as long + they're fiddley to cut & shut using the adaptor thingo.
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:06 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: Sorry I missed the question, at work at the moment & in my phone... Will try & remember to reply later.
Typically the universal ones don't last as long + they're fiddley to cut & shut using the adaptor thingo. Okay thanks. I will just buy the suited O2 sensor ( http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230649793196 ... 1423.l2649)
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:19 pm |
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I just tried to take out my O2 sensors. And it seems like they are seized, because I cannot for the life of me get them to budge. The whole engine moves when I try to loosen them. Any tips out how i could get them out, I don't wanna be stuck with brand new O2 sensors that i can't put in. By the way, the car has been sitting for 4 hours, and is cold.
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
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 Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:24 pm |
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Inox or similar over night, bit of impact on the spanner when you next attack them.
I doubt heat cycling would do much good on something that's bolted to the exhaust...
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:29 pm |
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DarkHorse wrote: Inox or similar over night, bit of impact on the spanner when you next attack them.
I doubt heat cycling would do much good on something that's bolted to the exhaust... I was reading up on seized O2 sensors and they were all pretty much saying either run the car till it's hot, or put a torch to it. You don't think this could help?
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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well i would take it a really good fang and get it really hot, once your home get your wife/gf/ younger sister or brother to climb in and have a crack while you stand there saying "be careful its hot" after they burn them self ahah. it will be hot so be very aware
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:15 pm |
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shandy92 wrote: well i would take it a really good fang and get it really hot, once your home get your wife/gf/ younger sister or brother to climb in and have a crack while you stand there saying "be careful its hot" after they burn them self ahah. it will be hot so be very aware Hahahah, okay. So you think heat will do the trick. Ill give it a go tomorrow. Thanks.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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karlmarkiewicz wrote: shandy92 wrote: well i would take it a really good fang and get it really hot, once your home get your wife/gf/ younger sister or brother to climb in and have a crack while you stand there saying "be careful its hot" after they burn them self ahah. it will be hot so be very aware Hahahah, okay. So you think heat will do the trick. Ill give it a go tomorrow. Thanks. well yeah, soak it in something will work as well. do you have a speed sensor socket (SSS)? or are you just using a spanner? tried double spannering? these are SSS's http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASTRO-PNEUMATIC ... 1930981%26p.s i know its not a speed sensor that your trying to remove, but it may still get the job done.
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:13 am |
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shandy92 wrote: karlmarkiewicz wrote: shandy92 wrote: well i would take it a really good fang and get it really hot, once your home get your wife/gf/ younger sister or brother to climb in and have a crack while you stand there saying "be careful its hot" after they burn them self ahah. it will be hot so be very aware Hahahah, okay. So you think heat will do the trick. Ill give it a go tomorrow. Thanks. well yeah, soak it in something will work as well. do you have a speed sensor socket (SSS)? or are you just using a spanner? tried double spannering? these are SSS's http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASTRO-PNEUMATIC ... 1930981%26p.s i know its not a speed sensor that your trying to remove, but it may still get the job done. I looked at those sockets, i don't have any, and didn't see a great need to buy a set for one job. Im going down to supercheap auto so maybe they will sell just one of them. I am using a spanner at the moment, what is double spannering? Also, i have sprayed around the O2 sensor with super releasing agent.
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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karlmarkiewicz wrote: what is double spannering? u link the ring of 1 spanner into the open end of the other effectively doubling your available leverage 
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:47 pm |
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tassie jeeper wrote: karlmarkiewicz wrote: what is double spannering? u link the ring of 1 spanner into the open end of the other effectively doubling your available leverage  Ohh, i didn't know that was called double spanner. Well I have tried everything, heating it, releasing agent, and getting a 1 meter long pipe for leverage, and all i have done is stripped the nut slightly. How much do i have to pay someone to get this out for me? It is actually killing me.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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take the o2 sensor and your car to exhaust shop, they should be able to crack them for you & fit them... NFI on the cost as every shop charges a different rate + they might be a bitch & take a while.
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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atari4x4 wrote: take the o2 sensor and your car to exhaust shop, they should be able to crack them for you & fit them... NFI on the cost as every shop charges a different rate + they might be a bitch & take a while. Yeah, okay, ill do that. It seems im only going down hill if I continue to try and get them out myself. Cheers
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:45 pm |
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So after about 2 or so hours of trying to get out the RHS O2 sensor, i thought i would try get out the LHS sensor, withing 3 minutes the sensor was out. Literally, the hardest part of the whole ordeal was fitting my had down there. Beats me why this sensor was practically loose, whereas the other one has seized up like you wouldn't beleive. Anyway, i thought i would post a photo of the Old left hand side sensor (Bank 1 i beleive), just to show you the condition of it. In my opinion it doesn't look too bad, but im not too sure what they are supposed to look like after 150,000kms EDIT: Actually, the hardest part was taking the extractors shield off, I broke the thread off on one of the bolts. Looks like the shield is now going to be held on my 2 nuts :/ Left O2 sensor is the New one. 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Looks like a used o2. 
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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atari4x4 wrote: Looks like a used o2.  Doesn't look broken like my car says it is? Also, am i supposed to notice ANYTHING after putting in the new O2 sensors. I put in my new one, and still have the old on in on the RHS, but i notice absolutely nothing. No sound differences, no power differences. Does it increase the performance of the car? Or does it simply give you better fuel economy without feeling it? Im confused.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:56 pm |
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 Are you serious??? It's a sensor, the inside bits get lazy... You should notice better economy, it's a tuning device used to trim the fuel load when required.
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:05 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: :roll: Are you serious???
It's a sensor, the inside bits get lazy... You should notice better economy, it's a tuning device used to trim the fuel load when required. Oh, hahah okay. Shows how much I know  Thanks.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:12 pm |
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:15 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: http://bit.ly/18aGQLb Cheers, got it 
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