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Post Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:05 am 
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Hi all,

I'm new so intros first - name's Ben, 33, hailing from northern Tassie (just west of Launceston in a one-horse town), graphic/web designer turned sheet metal apprentice/CAD operator by trade.... and if the stars align appropriately I'll be purchasing my first Vitara this weekend.

Happy days indeed! :D

The example I'm considering is a '93 LWB JX with a little over 200K on the clock. It's a 1.6L so obviously I'm a little wary of cylinder head issues that - I'm told - can be an issue with this engine.

Other than the usual signs of gasket/head failure (milky oil, pressure leaks in the radiator, stained coolant expansion tank etc.), is there anything in particular to check out/be aware of?

Obviously I don't expect a vehicle worth only a few grand to be completely problem-free forever, but given my last car ended up being a dog precisely due to cylinder head issues, I'm not inclined to make the same mistake twice!

Many thanks!

Cheers, Ben.

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:40 am 
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If I were looking for a Vit I would factor in $550 for a new head anyway.

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:52 am 
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A low K import engine only cost me $995 delivered (to Melb)
So if the body and the rest of mechanicals is good, it could still be a worthwhile buy.

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:57 am 
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check for off road abuse... chassis rails, fuel tank, front diff will all show signs...

This has come from outers, written by CJ, enjoy!!!

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OK, this topic comes up from time to time so I thought I might put something together that covers some model details and things to look for when buying a Vitara. This information has come from various sources including magazines, the internet and personal experience over time. Please feel free to add to this or provide corrections.

The Vitara came out here in '88 as a swb carburettored G16A 1.6 8v putting out 55kW @ 5400rpm and 123Nm @ 3000rpm with either a 5 speed manual or 3 speed auto (Trimatic) and was available as either a hardtop or softop. There were two main trim levels, JX being the base level and JLX the luxury version with power steering, power windows & power mirrors central locking and tilt steering wheel. Air conditioning was also available. The swb has a wheelbase of 2200mm. In late '94 the swb recieved an upgrade which gave it the G16B SOHC 1.6 16v EFI engine and the 4 speed auto (Aisin Warner) from the lwb. This engine produces 71kW @ 5600rpmand 133Nm @ 4000rpm. The lwb was released in '91 and was also offered in JX and JLX but all models got power steering. It has vented front discs and larger calipers compared to the swb and larger rear drums. This provides a brake upgrade option for swb Vits. It has a wheelbase of 2480mm. In '95 a widetrack lwb was releasd with a quad cam H20A 2.0 V6 engine developed jointly with Mazda. It put out 100kW @ 6500rpm and 172Nm @ 4000rpm. The chassis was widened 60mm and larger brakes and calipers were fitted along with 16" rims to clear them. In '97 a widetrack swb was released with a J20A DOHC 2.0 4cyl engine developing 97kW @ 5900rpm and 166Nm @ 4300rpm. The power and torque figures given for the engines may vary slightly over the years as smal changes were made by Suzuki.

Things to look for:

Check for damage underneath to things like crossmembers, sills and fuel tanks for signs of use offroad. Fuel tank depressions can be caused either by impact or the charcoal canister behind the headlight getting saturated through deep water crossings and not allowing the tank to breathe so it sucks itself in.

Check that the front manual hubs work. Vehicles that have not been used in 4wd can have the hubs corrode and will need replacing. This lack of use can also mean the front R & P may also be corroded as the top part will not have been immersed in oil regularly. It pays to lock the hubs once a month and go for a short drive. The other problem lack of use causes is the bearing surfaces get corrugated from the bearings impacting the same spot over time. When 4wd is finally used the bearings can't run smoothly and noise and carnage will follow.

Check the front wheel bearings as they can become loose over time.

Check that the strut top bolts are aligned evenly within the housing and haven't moved inboard. If they are not centred then it may have been doing some dune jumping or similar. The 2.0 models got strut braces to prevent this.

If the front A-arms have had decent impacts then the radiator could be tilted back towards the engine and the top hose may be kinked.

Look for signs of overheating. This could be due to clogged radiator passages. This can cause cylinder head failure. Look at the alloy as it will have changed colour or be powdery. Check inside the oil filler cap for signs of coolant mixing with the oil. Regular coolant changes are a positive and do not mix coolants.

The alloy front diff/axle housing should be checked for any signs of cracking. The best solution is to replace it with a steel housing from a manual V6 Grand Vitara or XL-7.

There have been some cases of engine blocks cracking. Check the welsh plugs for signs of coolant weeping, particularly under the starter motor.

The exhaust manifolds are prone to cracking but headers are available and give some more power.

Have a look inside the air filter box for signs of water as it may indicate water has got in the engine. Bad.

The power window switches and regulators can fail over time but are relatively easy to replace.

The handle on the rear door/tailgate can fail but is easy to fix.

Check for oil leaks. If it is coming from the distributor then it is likely to be a small o-ring that is a cheap and easy repair but other leaks may involve more expensive repairs.

Deformed bumpstops can be a sign of overloading or hard offroad use. This may mean that the axles, suspension etc have seen better days.

Some of the early G16B 16v heads had porous castings but these should all be fixed by now.

Make sure the cam belts have been replaced every 100,000km's. If you're not sure make it the first thing you do.

Do not be put of by the above as the Vitara is actually a pretty reliable little 4wd and with regular servicing the engines are good for at least 200-250,000km's before major work should need to be considered. Most of the things listed won't be found but on the offchance you now know what to look for and stay away from or adjust the price accordingly.

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Post Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:32 pm 
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a good indication of offroad use is the crossmembers.

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Post Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:08 pm 
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Thank you everyone for your help.

The car checked out well - in quite good nick for a 20 year old car. Good service history, smooth running engine and drivetrain and as far as I can tell, not a great deal of offroad use. A few little electrical and aesthetic foibles that will need to be sorted out in due course (expect another thread soon) but all the important stuff appeared to be as it ought, so for the price paid I'm very happy.

Fingers crossed, it should be a good base to build an affordable yet capable little fourby.

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Post Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:07 am 
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93 lwb are the best :) welcome to our obsession

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