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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:48 am |
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hey all,
so i split a radiator hose yesterday and i didnt really think how hard it would be to do. the hose in question is the one that goes into the block and at the other end goes into a metal sleeve.
i cannot find a possible way of how it can be removed with any sort of easy, i have the alternator on one side and on the other i have an engine mount looking thing. there isnt much room and the clamp is facing the wrong directing making it almost impossible to get to, without removing components and wasting time.
so if you have a factory g16b (spoke to alien and his engine is slightly different and more open, sierra with g16b) would u be able to tell me how this is done? and what do i need to do? if you dont understand what im doing and have nothing better to do, could u go have a look at ur engine and have a look.
i was hoping to have this done by today (currently 5:15  ), so please reply as soon as you can.
thanks
Mitch
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:52 am |
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undo the clamp, slice down teh side of the hose, peel off and replace 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:54 am |
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royce wrote: undo the clamp, slice down teh side of the hose, peel off and replace 
 Work's every time!!!
unless you want to keep the hose.. 
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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shandy92

az supporter
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:56 am |
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royce wrote: undo the clamp, slice down teh side of the hose, peel off and replace 
yeah sounds easy, but the head of the clamp is facing to the firewall and i cant get to it from that side. ill go take a photo so you guys can see my issue.
thanks tho,
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:57 am |
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either stick a screwdriver behind the manifold brace or stick a socket and ratchet on it and undo it
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:01 am |
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defintely try getting a socket onto the hose clamp... always works better than a screwdriver.
i suppose if you wanted to be brutal you could cut the hose clamp off with a hacksaw blade, then when you fit the new hose and clamp, make sure you can get to the screw for next time?
PS: can you tell its hot in perth? 2 threads on cooling in one day =P
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shandy92

az supporter
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:10 am |
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yeah i will try get a socket on it, but once i got the socket on there i wont be able to move the ratchet because of the manifold brace. i highly doubt i could get a screw driver behind the brace but i will give it a go. i thought about the hacksaw but there isnt enough room lol.
i got some photos's, there not very good as it hard enough to see with ur eyes. photos will take time as crap internet.
thanks
Mitch
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:12 am |
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this is where an assortment of 1/4" sockets are worth their weight in gold 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:14 am |
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good thing the sun doesnt set till 7.30ish =P
maybe give it a rest for tonight and start fresh in the morning once its cooled down a bit... temp outside is still at 36*C!
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:19 am |
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alien wrote: good thing the sun doesnt set till 7.30ish =P
maybe give it a rest for tonight and start fresh in the morning once its cooled down a bit... temp outside is still at 36*C!
well yeah i like summer and i like the heat. my folks are out, so i have the garage and i wont have that in the morning
while my pics upload, im going to try putting a screwy up its rear 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:22 am |
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Take the manifold bracket off, 4 14mm bolt's & a couple of clip's...
but 1/4 drive socket's are better..
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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shandy92

az supporter
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:32 am |
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steak_knife wrote: Take the manifold bracket off, 4 14mm bolt's & a couple of clip's...
but 1/4 drive socket's are better..
is there any weight/load on it? will anything happen when i do it?? i think i have some 1/4 drive sockets too
this is from the top:
the clamp its self:
from underneath:
in all the shots you can see some form of obstruction in the way of the clamp.
Mitch
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:34 am |
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pic 2, super stubby screwdriver, job done
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:36 am |
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royce wrote: pic 2, super stubby screwdriver, job done
yeah would be easy....i dont have any stubby's  plus to get that shot i got the camera behind the brace, so maybe once i get the brace off i will.
going to take it off now.
cheers
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:37 am |
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steak_knife

az supporter
Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:55 am |
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ajsr wrote: 10 mm spanner
 ratchet spanner...
If you have new clamp's you can just cut the 2 band's of the ole clamp, you'll need good'ish side cutter's tho.
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:57 am |
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go go gadget ratchet fingers....
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:59 am |
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steak_knife wrote: Take the manifold bracket off, 3 14mm bolt's & a couple of clip's...
but 1/4 drive socket's are better..
 Thought there was 4...
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 2018 DMAX
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:21 am |
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If its the type of hose clamp i think it is, just get in there for some snips and cut the two bits of wire that wrap around the hose.. new hose clamp is cheap enough
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:35 am |
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royce wrote: this is where an assortment of 1/4" sockets are worth their weight in gold 
Got myself a set for Christmas
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:32 am |
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Just chop the pricks off and replace them. Very simple solution.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:33 am |
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hey all,
got it all sorted out  i took off/ rotated the manifold brace (only 3 bolts, 2 at the top and 1 down low where it swivles) so i could get to the clamp (otherwise impossible to do so). once i did that then i had to get the stiff clamp off, took me about 25 mins to get that off, i only had about 15cm of movement for the spanner. i know what im buying next....ratchet spanners  then i had the joy of doing it all backwards, took me 4.5hrs from start-finish, including AZ checks. that has got to be one of the hardest-easy job that can be done.
so all is done, thanks steak knife for suggesting to take that bracket off otherwise i would of been there all night long untill someone else did and thanks to everyone else for ya input.
cheers again
Mitch
p.s my hands hurt 
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:34 am |
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Lockie666 wrote: Just chop the pricks off and replace them. Very simple solution.
ahaha yeah sure, not if ya cant get a blade in there....i did try lol
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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so how is that feeling of satisfaction now its done??? lol i bet next time you take it to a mechanic and go "you do it, i cant be fucked" lol =)
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:13 pm |
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alien wrote: so how is that feeling of satisfaction now its done??? lol i bet next time you take it to a mechanic and go "you do it, i cant be fucked" lol =)
Or you could set the clamp in such a pos to be able to get at it again... 
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:43 am |
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steak_knife wrote: alien wrote: so how is that feeling of satisfaction now its done??? lol i bet next time you take it to a mechanic and go "you do it, i cant be fucked" lol =) Or you could set the clamp in such a pos to be able to get at it again... 
yeah does feel good, and yeah i did put the clamp on so it could be done up easily....kind of.
i no how to do it no so shouldnt take me that long next time, now all i have to do is replace the bottom hose and its all new 
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