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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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ok...
managed to fit a rear sierra dif into the front of my vitara. With no experience with rear sierra diffs and which way is up. I stupidly manage to place the sierra rear upside down (which is the only way is was going to fit without major mods to case or diff crossmember), to find i now have two diffs going opposite directions..
I know the sierra rears are not symetrical and highly dought this is possible. But is there a way to internally flip the sierra internals inside the carrier to allow it to spin the opposite direction?
otherwise i gotta do major things underneath the car to make it fit
uber buggerup
cheers
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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any chance of getting a sierra front in there, as the suzuki circle spin ratio is all messed up with a rear diff in the front.
i was looking at your build up pics thinking that pinion flange is way high & up to the right.
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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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 Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:14 am |
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im quiet sure there are no sierra front internals that are 26 splined. (someone feel free to prove me wrong)
Yes the front is way up high but that was the only way i could install it. its not to bad tho. The lengths all line up and runs well with all the wheels in the air  Will trying again at pulling it all out and flipping it.
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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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what do u mean by spin ratios?
i took the ring and pinion front my vitara internals and put them in the sierra housing. So they should spin the same as the rears.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:35 am |
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ignore the circle spin ratio... it was a lame attempt at a joke  someone asked why there wheels rotated the opposite direction & that was a drunken reply by someone on here.
is the sierra pinion rear carrier up the right way or has it been rotated 180, i think it need to be up the other way?
this thread talks about using the front carrier, but i don't know enough about the sierra diffs to know what im looking at.
http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,81047.0.html
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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first you need to take it to some mud and find out if it does better donuts.
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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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All these people are runnning the sierra rear diff in the front with standard drop arms. Its different with the extended diff drop brackets in place, or in my case the anvil housing.
The simple solution to this problem is to flip the diff. But there is no room to do so in my case as it kits the cross member. Will try and flip it on the weekend. Will just have to modify the crap out of everything because of room issues.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:12 am |
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to get the right rotation you'll need to spin the carrier 180
US forum pic
Timbo_'s diff

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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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It is possible to fit a sierra rear 3rd member into a vitara front housing the right way up but clearance is VERY tight.
The diff will install either way up.
Steve.
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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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 Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:28 am |
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Gwagensteve wrote: The diff will install either way up.
Steve.
so i can flip just the internals?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:31 am |
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No. The gears are cut in one direction, so they will only go together one way. You can't turn the centre around.
What I meant is that the third member will install in the axle housing either way up.
Steve.
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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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 Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:59 am |
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gotcha. realised that after i read it again.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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you may need more oil in the diff, to compensate for the elevated pinion. or else you will cook the pinion bearings
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oozuk
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1452 Location: bethania QLD
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HOLT CRAP Timbo_ you got shares in the ultra blue sealant company or something
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