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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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How do you tell the flywheels apart? I have 4 flywheels here I need to know what one is off a W/T 1.3
Does anyone know the size of each flywheel.
Oh and to add a twist one of these may be from a Gemini.  Long story but i have a milk crate of flywheels and a mate needs one for a w/t 1.3
Oh and they are at my house I dont have them on me. So I cant look for numbers till I get home.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Early 1.3 plates are flat.
Late 1.3 has a 5-6mm recess for the clutch plate.
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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ok great thanks thats what I was thinking.
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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want33s wrote: Early 1.3 plates are flat. Late 1.3 has a 5-6mm recess for the clutch plate.
WRONG
1.3 swift flywheels are flat
1.3 litre sierra flywheel has a 2.1 mm recess for the clutch plate throughout the whole 1.3 range
1 litre sierra the clutch plate area is 1.8 mm raised
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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losfer wrote: want33s wrote: Early 1.3 plates are flat. Late 1.3 has a 5-6mm recess for the clutch plate. WRONG 1.3 swift flywheels are flat 1.3 litre sierra flywheel has a 2.1 mm recess for the clutch plate throughout the whole 1.3 range 1 litre sierra the clutch plate area is 1.8 mm raised
There are two recesses in the flywheel...
The problem has already been solved but thanks anyway. 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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losfer wrote: want33s wrote: Early 1.3 plates are flat. Late 1.3 has a 5-6mm recess for the clutch plate. WRONG 1.3 swift flywheels are flat 1.3 litre sierra flywheel has a 2.1 mm recess for the clutch plate throughout the whole 1.3 range 1 litre sierra the clutch plate area is 1.8 mm raised
WRONG
some 1.3 sierras have a flat flywheel and use the swift clutch, I owned one
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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And on a related matter, aren't there 2 versions of clutch plate? 20 and 22 spline comes to mind?
Might be handy to mention if someone comes across this thread in a search.
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Hybrid

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Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1095 Location: Bulimba, Brisbane
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Yep theres 2 but can't remember the spline count. I'm pretty sure the later were 22 and the earlier were 20 like you said or maybe 19??? I also screwed up once where I put an earlier clutch onto one of the stepped (recessed) fly wheels. As a result the car would drive but would slip constantly.
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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
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OK sorry to go of course just that lil but will a gti flywheel fit a 95 sierra ??
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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Both clutch packs will bolt up to both flywheels. the difference is in the trans input shaft.
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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IN2DEP wrote: OK sorry to go of course just that lil but will a gti flywheel fit a 95 sierra ??
It should but with it being lighter it will take away from the torque.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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v.w.dave wrote: IN2DEP wrote: OK sorry to go of course just that lil but will a gti flywheel fit a 95 sierra ?? It should but with it being lighter it will take away from the torque.
wev'e been through this the flywheel weight makes fuckall difference to how much power your engine can make
you need the flywheel that matches your gearbox, 18 spline is flat so gti might work with that cause its the same clutch as a swift but I doubt it
20 spline is stepped so wont work at all
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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
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So you dont think it will work, What do you mean by stepped cause ive machined my gti Flywheel for it to be a "lighten flywheel"
Its sitting in my gti out back so if it can fit ill use it but if not ill sell it lol
And i know it wont make me power fitting it, but it will make the engine run with less strain being lighter then standard, TRUE ??
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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yes lighter flywheel is better for acceleration, not as good for smooth idle though
bit the common sierra box uses a flywheel that not flat it has a stepped section where the plate runs so the pressure plate wont work with a flat flywheel
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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
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Thanks royce
If some has a picture of a standard sierra Flywheel can they send it to me or post it up,
Cheers guys
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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89 sj50 WT flywheel with a broken bolt

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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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I have a 1.3 gearbox with 20 spline, do I need a flywheel that steps out where the clutch plates touch ? Cheers
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BlueSuzy

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erm, for what?
Stock sierra has a step in..
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Use the 1.3 flywheel not the baleno one
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Scrawny

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alex

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ScrawnC wrote:
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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royce wrote: losfer wrote: want33s wrote: Early 1.3 plates are flat. Late 1.3 has a 5-6mm recess for the clutch plate. WRONG 1.3 swift flywheels are flat 1.3 litre sierra flywheel has a 2.1 mm recess for the clutch plate throughout the whole 1.3 range 1 litre sierra the clutch plate area is 1.8 mm raised WRONG some 1.3 sierras have a flat flywheel and use the swift clutch, I owned one
no 1.3 sierra ever used a flat flywheel , i think you got duped (while we are on an old thread) also no 1.3 sierra ever used the same spline as a swift.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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v.w.dave wrote: IN2DEP wrote: OK sorry to go of course just that lil but will a gti flywheel fit a 95 sierra ?? It should but with it being lighter it will take away from the torque.
I would just like to add....
This is a total load of shit.
The flywheel stores energy, and assists in smothing out the peaks and troughs of power output etc.
Even though v.w.dave is no longer here, perhaps we can change his name to fos.dave for all the misinformation provided.
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DMAC

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Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1612 Location: North Brisbane
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Though I'd keep flywheel stuff together.
I have a G16A block that was connected to an auto. I've gone to put the 1.3 flywheel on and it doesn't fit.  As you can see it isn't flat. No timing pin either.
The collar appears to be the same size as the spigot bearing.
What do I do?
1. Grind the collar flat.
OR
2. Is there a smaller spigot bearing that goes inside the collar?
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Scrawny

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This thread always makes me laugh
That collar is where the spigot bearing lives. Is that engine out of a Vit?
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DMAC

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ScrawnC wrote: This thread always makes me laugh That collar is where the spigot bearing lives. Is that engine out of a Vit?
Glad it tickles you but I don't hang around this end of an engine often.
Baleno engine I think.
OK that will make it extremely small as the collar OD has the same OD as the 1.3 spigot bearing.
So to fix it, I knock out the bearing in the flywheel and source a 1.6 spigot bearing?
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Scrawny

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DMAC wrote: So to fix it, I knock out the bearing in the flywheel and source a 1.6 spigot bearing?
That sounds right.
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DMAC

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Thanks Scrawn. 
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steak_knife

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That look's like an adapter for a toque converter, should tap off..
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DMAC

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steak_knife wrote: That look's like an adapter for a toque converter, should tap off..
I've given it at tap thinking the same that it could be a spacer thingy.
Maybe I need a bigger hammer. 
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