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rob_macca67
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 366 Location: Brisbane - Nthside
Vehicle: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4dr Wgn
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 Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:49 pm |
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Guys, for those in the know...
I've got a 5dr '93 LWB Vitara with a 50mm BL + Suspension lift and running 30" tyres...
I'm wondering if there is anyone running 16" rims and a 245/75/16 tyres on their SE416 Vitara and if so, what (if any) sort of mods have u done to run them?
Do they rub under full flex (up/down)?
What rim offset?
These 245/75/16 tyres basically work out to roughly 30.5" tyres and roughly the same width as the 9.5R15 (30") tyres...
Just like like to hear from others of their experience in running these size tyres?
thanks in advance....
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'93 4Dr Vit, Red Gears,Bighorn 30" MTs, Sliders:B/
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:26 am |
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SWB has a 31x10.5. and no body lift. slightly larger than 245/75/16 on paper. But physically sometimes the same.
-13 offset.
bump stops from JWB and some hammering and flattening of seams was needed, nothing major.
Due to body lift you may not need this. Flex it and see.
I believe 31" is on the absolute cusp where gearing is needed if your driving steeper stuff. along with aftermarket arms (calmini/4art/etc)
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rob_macca67
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 366 Location: Brisbane - Nthside
Vehicle: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4dr Wgn
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:19 am |
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shakes wrote: SWB has a 31x10.5. and no body lift. slightly larger than 245/75/16 on paper. But physically sometimes the same.
-13 offset.
bump stops from JWB and some hammering and flattening of seams was needed, nothing major.
Due to body lift you may not need this. Flex it and see.
I believe 31" is on the absolute cusp where gearing is needed if your driving steeper stuff. along with aftermarket arms (calmini/4art/etc) Thanks for that… I do have reduction gears already so that’s not a problem. I remember trialling 31” tyres years ago and they rubbed quite bad back then but I cannot remember if I had the BL installed at that point in time…
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:58 am |
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Body lift does not make a substantial difference to where the tyres will rub as the contact points are basically vertical. (The seam behind the inner guard liner on the firewall.) this seam will need to be flattened. Less rim offset reduces this problem but results in more contact between the tyre and chassis at full lock.
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rob_macca67
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 366 Location: Brisbane - Nthside
Vehicle: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4dr Wgn
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:32 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: Body lift does not make a substantial difference to where the tyres will rub as the contact points are basically vertical. (The seam behind the inner guard liner on the firewall.) this seam will need to be flattened. Less rim offset reduces this problem but results in more contact between the tyre and chassis at full lock. Thanks for the heads up… what sort of offset are we looking at?
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'93 4Dr Vit, Red Gears,Bighorn 30" MTs, Sliders:B/
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rob_macca67
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 366 Location: Brisbane - Nthside
Vehicle: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4dr Wgn
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:32 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: Body lift does not make a substantial difference to where the tyres will rub as the contact points are basically vertical. (The seam behind the inner guard liner on the firewall.) this seam will need to be flattened. Less rim offset reduces this problem but results in more contact between the tyre and chassis at full lock. Thanks for the heads up… what sort of offset are we looking at?
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'93 4Dr Vit, Red Gears,Bighorn 30" MTs, Sliders:B/
Last edited by rob_macca67 on Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:11 pm |
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I would try GV or XL7 rims
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rob_macca67
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 366 Location: Brisbane - Nthside
Vehicle: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4dr Wgn
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:00 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: I would try GV or XL7 rims I recently purchased a 1993 Vitara that came with what I think is XL7 16" alloy rims. At first look, I thought they would be good but upon closer inspection, they have a 25P offset which really puts them too close to the springs, etc. From my calls, I think a rim with a 10P should be spot on.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2655 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: JB420, APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:52 pm |
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rob_macca67
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 366 Location: Brisbane - Nthside
Vehicle: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4dr Wgn
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:15 am |
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fordem wrote: GVs are a +5 offset. Well, I don't know what these Rims are off... I thought they were off a XL7, but anyhow they definitely are a 25P offset which causes rubbing issues
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:28 am |
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They're from a V6 Vitara which are definitely 25P.
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rob_macca67
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 366 Location: Brisbane - Nthside
Vehicle: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4dr Wgn
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:06 am |
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Gwagensteve wrote: They're from a V6 Vitara which are definitely 25P. OK Good to know.... thanks for that
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Bongrat
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Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:44 am Posts: 1
Vehicle: 96 Suzuki Vitara JLX SWB
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:32 am |
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shakes wrote: SWB has a 31x10.5. and no body lift. slightly larger than 245/75/16 on paper. But physically sometimes the same.
-13 offset.
bump stops from JWB and some hammering and flattening of seams was needed, nothing major.
Due to body lift you may not need this. Flex it and see.
I believe 31" is on the absolute cusp where gearing is needed if your driving steeper stuff. along with aftermarket arms (calmini/4art/etc) What suspension lift do you have in her?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:36 am |
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The bumpstops and hammering are what’s fitting the tyres. Suspension lift doesn’t have anything to do with tyre clearance.
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