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New2Zooks

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Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:25 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Grand Vitara JX
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 Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:41 pm |
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Hi. So to keep this simple. I got a new suzuki grand vitara as an xmas present (just ad a daily while i live away from home) and to go camping/wheeling in her. Now. Ive heard 4x4ing in a non power steering vehicle suckssssss. Just driving it on some old dirt roads i punched my nads twice the first day i got it, cause of whip feedback from potholes.
My question is, power steering. What do i do to get it. As my car doesnt come with pwr steering, i need to fit my own. But i dont know what fits, so to save my time, i thought i might ask to see if any of you may have an answer. Its an old, beat car, but its got a straight body and can be saved, 308xxx on the clock, on factory shocks/springs, a 2in body lift, and 31 inch tyres, leaking brake lines, bad clutch. Etc. Its old. But can be fixed with some love.
I fully hope i get helpful replies, and im glad to finally own a zook. I love these little machines, and im hoping this zook is my first 4x4, and one of my last 4x4s. Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me figure this out. Also sorry if this has been asked before.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2655 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: JB420, APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:44 am |
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As far as I'm aware, ALL Grand Vitaras came with power steering, and if the vehicle in question is the 1997 listed in your profile, then I would question whether or not it's actually a Grand - as far as I know the Grand Vitara was first released in 1998.
We need to know what you're driving before we can help.
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New2Zooks

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Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:25 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Grand Vitara JX
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:49 am |
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Well there ya go. Showing off my ability to noob the zook world. Haha. I thought "grand" was the lable given to the 4dr variants. Guess not huh. Still got some things to learn, but yeah, she dont have power steering, id like to get a little better tech in her to make her up and exceed my pops 80 series cruiser.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:57 am |
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All 4 door vitaras came with powersteer
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:42 am |
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X2. All 4 door Vitaras and ALL grand vitaras had power steer regardless of engine or trim level.
All JLX vitaras had power steer.
2 door JX vitaras (the base model) didn't have power steer, locking or mirrors.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2655 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: JB420, APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:43 am |
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And we still have NO idea what vehicle you have...
A picture or even the chassis number would probably go a far way to helping us help you.
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New2Zooks

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Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:25 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Grand Vitara JX
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:15 am |
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fordem wrote: And we still have NO idea what vehicle you have... Probably would help to know that. Im not quite sure myself. As far as im aware, it has 4 doors, it has a JX written on the back door, and the metal production stamp says it was manufactured in may of 1997. I only have like 2 pictures of it, ive uploaded one of them, being a front on view, and the other photo got rejected for being too big a file.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:39 pm |
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So it has power steering.
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New2Zooks

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Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:25 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Grand Vitara JX
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:43 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: So it has power steering. It does not. Thats the problem. No lines, no resevoir, no pump, no brackets, no hoses on the rack and pinion. Its got nothing. So either not all 4 doors came with power steering, or my car has got a whole new steering column, rack and pinion, tie rods, and deleted everything else power steering related. Which is unlikely.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:46 pm |
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Is it a 1.6L 2.0L or 2.5L? 4cyl or 6cyl?
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New2Zooks

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Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:25 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Grand Vitara JX
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:00 pm |
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Its a 1.6L EFI 4cyl motor. Everywhere i look on the internet, it says my car should have pwr steering. It has the estate decal on the back panel of the car, its the suzuki vitara JX estate 4 door.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:00 pm |
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You say it has rack&pinon so the car looks like this? 
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:03 pm |
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New2Zooks wrote: Its a 1.6L EFI 4cyl motor. Everywhere i look on the internet, it says my car should have pwr steering. It has the estate decal on the back panel of the car, its the suzuki vitara JX estate 4 door. Does it have aircon?
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New2Zooks

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Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:25 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Grand Vitara JX
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:09 pm |
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It does have aircon, yes. It doesnt work, but supposedly it has aircon.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:21 pm |
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I would say it has had the complete p/s set up removed and a none p/s box fitted.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2655 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: JB420, APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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 Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:05 am |
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And we still have no clue what you're driving ...
A four door with a 1.6 would have to be an SE series which would not have rack & pinion steering.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:35 am |
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Fordem - it's not strictly relevant, as any of the possible vehicles it could be were delivered with power steering.
The use of the term rack and pinion is confusing though. a 4 door 1997 vitara with estate on the rear quarters and JX on the rear door means it's not a grand vitara and therefore will have a steering box not a rack.
Don't overestimate how hard it is to remove/refit power steering. Removing the lines pump and bracket is quick and easy, there's no change to column, tie rods etc - wapping power steer to manual steer box is three bolts and the drag link.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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New2Zooks wrote: Ive heard 4x4ing in a non power steering vehicle suckssssss. Just driving it on some old dirt roads i punched my nads twice the first day i got it, cause of whip feedback from potholes. 
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