[kenn]

Yeah, but its cheap compared to the Space Shuttle.
Tiling that thing was a Bitch ,you know i don't like ladders..

[kenn]

cj_zuki wrote:

kenn wrote:

$1000,000.00 Well that's what I'd charge..

Or you could just buy this http://www.puresuzuki.com/anvil_axle.htm and get the diff drop brackets built in as well.

I made my own version using a GV steel front axle housing with a few mods I designed plus I also got the steel diff centre housing and all up it cost less than buying just the Calmini Anvil.

Another option I've seen is a Sierra rear cut down and modified to work in the front if you can fab.

Why , in this recession, would you want to send your money off shore when someone in your own country is having a go and making, what i think is a better product for this purpose. I believe Joeblow is making them to suit a Sierra steel diff carrier which you can put your Vit gears in ,like the front diff in my LJ which is modified 1.3 Sierra , Also he's making these for standard Vitara's ,to eliminate the weak alloy housing's, but I'm sure if you asked Joe nicely he'd make one with drop brackets as well .

[cj_zuki]

kenn wrote:

Why , in this recession, would you want to send your money off shore when someone in your own country is having a go and making, what i think is a better product for this purpose. I believe Joeblow is making them to suit a Sierra steel diff carrier which you can put your Vit gears in ,like the front diff in my LJ which is modified 1.3 Sierra , Also he's making these for standard Vitara's ,to eliminate the weak alloy housing's, but I'm sure if you asked Joe nicely he'd make one with drop brackets as well .

I'd send money offshore for the same reason that people overseas would buy from Australia, perceived value. Protectionism isn't the answer. Imagine ARB with no export market. I have no problems with what Joe is building if the price is comparable to other available options out there as it then gives purchasers more choice which is a good thing. The Anvil has been around for some years now but if Joe can offer the same product locally at a similar price then that is great.

I haven't seen anything mentioned yet about what Joe is building that makes it a better product for the purpose though. With respect to using a Sierra carrier, well you can use it with a Vit alloy axle housing too as people have already done that both here and overseas for some years with a little modding. It doesn't need some special axle housing to be used. As an aside, another option would be to make it suit a Vitara rear carrier as they are everywhere and can be picked up for next to nothing and are stronger and diff clearance isn't an issue.

As I pointed out as well there is also the Factory upgrade option avaible from some GV's and XL-7's which is what I have done along with modifying it to run a bearing on the drivers side and a new stub axle which allows the use of passenger side driveshaft which cost me less than an Anvil plus I also got the steel carrier and I already have diff drop brackets When bringing a new product to market you always need to be aware of the potential competitors.

As far as solid axles go, seeing as Spidertrax no longer make their Sidewinder it would be nice to get a comparable product and Joe has the makings of one there. Full floater rear with discs and a front using a Vit rear carrier and Double toughs with only one custom axle required. With a nice shallow housing no shaving would be required, all fill and drain points can be accommodated and along with some decent strength axles tubes you'd have a winner.

[shep]

kenn wrote:

Yeah, but its cheap compared to the Space Shuttle.
Tiling that thing was a Bitch ,you know i don't like ladders..

did ya get a bit tight with the glue, those tiles keep falling off

[kenn]

it was late in the day , a little hot , needed a bourbon...and it was only going to get used a few dozen times and well that's pay back for Jeeps..

[shep]

bladdy jeeps, a flaming death is to good for em.

[kenn]

Hey maybe i should start randomly tiling Jeeps .

[joeblow]

cj_zuki wrote:

I'd send money offshore for the same reason that people overseas would buy from Australia, perceived value. Protectionism isn't the answer. Imagine ARB with no export market. I have no problems with what Joe is building if the price is comparable to other available options out there as it then gives purchasers more choice which is a good thing. The Anvil has been around for some years now but if Joe can offer the same product locally at a similar price then that is great.

ahhhh....cj,cj,cj. take a deep breath and have a cuppa. we are not getting that deep here. protectionism will stress you out too much.

cj_zuki wrote:

I haven't seen anything mentioned yet about what Joe is building that makes it a better product for the purpose though. With respect to using a Sierra carrier, well you can use it with a Vit alloy axle housing too as people have already done that both here and overseas for some years with a little modding. It doesn't need some special axle housing to be used. As an aside, another option would be to make it suit a Vitara rear carrier as they are everywhere and can be picked up for next to nothing and are stronger and diff clearance isn't an issue.

while you are sipping said cuppa......go back to the very start and read the bit where i said 'i'm only making this because i can.....no other fancy-pants reason than that'...........now take another deep breath.

cj_zuki wrote:

As I pointed out as well there is also the Factory upgrade option avaible from some GV's and XL-7's which is what I have done along with modifying it to run a bearing on the drivers side and a new stub axle which allows the use of passenger side driveshaft which cost me less than an Anvil plus I also got the steel carrier and I already have diff drop brackets

well good on ya!......i think you deserve another cuppa.

cj_zuki wrote:

As far as solid axles go, seeing as Spidertrax no longer make their Sidewinder it would be nice to get a comparable product and Joe has the makings of one there. Full floater rear with discs and a front using a Vit rear carrier and Double toughs with only one custom axle required. With a nice shallow housing no shaving would be required, all fill and drain points can be accommodated and along with some decent strength axles tubes you'd have a winner.

mmmm....i have nooo interest in a full floating rear. the set up i use (and others) is proving boringly reliable..........and i have nooo interest in a full size vit front....i'm still waiting to grenade a front 5.1 in the standard vit front size.


but on a good note i have spoken to a maker of touble-toughs for jimnys.........should see my axles in a couple of months.

[cj_zuki]

Thanks for the suggestion Joe but I don't drink a cuppa and if you knew me a little better you'd know that I don't stress.

I was not responding to your posts about the purpose of your fabrication but to Kenn's comments and tossing around some ideas which is what generally happens on forums.

I have been know to make stuff just because I can or want to and not because it may be the most obvious or even best solution. Hell, the engine and trans I'm putting in my build isn't the ideal but it suited the situation and I wanted to play with something a little different and learn along the way.

[RIKSTR]

Lets get back to it, How is it coming along Joe?

I want to know if it can be done and be good. Not the strongest but just work well.

I never liked Celia Barrys (I think that is how it is splet ) suzuki only version of a SAS and I really dont want to do toyota stuff if I can either.

Keep up the good work

[joeblow]

you can tell outers is down............

been in talks with a guy in europe who is making double tough type axles for jimnys. that would be great seeing how i want to use jimny inners for thier length.

[RIKSTR]

Yea given up on Outers anyway

[joeblow]

ok..............the jig was welded up today. been too busy on toyota builds..............sorry....... here are some pics.

[atari4x4]

fuck yeah!

[steak_knife]

atari4x4 wrote:

fuck yeah!

x2!!

[joeblow]

some more progress today.......













knuckle being machined on an adaptor in the lathe so it fits nicely in the tubing.





lots more brackets to come...........................

[atari4x4]

you've got the mad skills with the hot metal glue gun!

[Zook_Fan]

what welder are you using for this? have you welded on the inside or is that all just penetration?

[DMAC]

atari4x4 wrote:

you've got the mad skills with the hot metal glue gun!

X2 Love the look of you gluing skills.
Remind never to post a pic of any of my gluing efforts.
Practice, practice, practice........................

[joeblow]

thanks guys. there are some inside welds also.

here is the migomag.........have had it for many years and still does not miss a beat.



knuckle time..................

[steak_knife]

Your welds give me wood!

[Polar_Bear]

Thats fully sick dude!!! how many of these are you making?

[joeblow]

steknig wrote:

Your welds give me wood!

mmmm....that could be awkward standing next to each other in the shed

this is the sierra version for my vehicle, next will be a vit vehicle. not sure on the amount thing yet, just doing it for right now to see how it turns out.....

some more pics.....

with knuckles set.




drain and fill plugs in.

[daisy]

Migomags are awesome welders, I have a 240 myself and has never missed a beat.

At work - we have five of those machines - a 240, 3x 315 amps and 1x 400 amp.. and they get abused, trashed and still go hard.

Nice welds btw joeblow

[Zook_Fan]

what would that weigh next to a standard sierra housing? It looks rock solid but that sort of infers that it is pretty heavy

[hutch]

hey joe,
just a question... did u loose your mechano kit when you were a kid?

















Your skills are testament to the enginuity that has sustained the australianess in all of us, pity my welds are like bird crap from a chook that has had too much chicken curry the night before.

[joeblow]

it weighs about 2-3 kilos more than a standard housing.

no, no mechano set for me. i grew up with a single parent on the pension in commision housing. i'm making up for it now though

with the a-frame that will be attached to it.

[steak_knife]

That`s nice. keep the pic`s coming.

[zookernator]

Once again, your skills just amaze me. God bless you, your shed, your skills, and your tools joe

[hobzees4wdshop]

Whats the go with the solid a-frame Joe?

Nice looking setup. Is this housing going to use sierra Cromo Cvs and axles and a sierra centre?
Dan