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oneinkedgeek
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:32 pm Posts: 154
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:55 pm |
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This is a long shot I know, but I was out in the weekend giving the truck a good work out and I noticed a strange sound. It's like a tinking sound like a loose washer somewhere, but its not.
Seems to be from running gear or cv when 4x4 is engaged, doesn't do in in 2x4
Thought I'd post up incase you GV guys knew of a general problem which I don't know about.
Very hard to pinpoint when you have to be moving to get the noise to occur and no one was keen to be dragged under my moving truck, lol
Any ideas ?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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oneinkedgeek wrote: This is a long shot yep can you get a vid of the noise... gopro/sticky tape phone or camera to car? what side? is it wheel/road speed related? front dive shaft speed related? got FWH's so you can drop it in 4wd without the hubs locked in & lock the hubs in while in 2wd?
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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No FWH by the look of it 
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oneinkedgeek
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:32 pm Posts: 154
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:32 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: oneinkedgeek wrote: This is a long shot yep can you get a vid of the noise... gopro/sticky tape phone or camera to car? what side? is it wheel/road speed related? front dive shaft speed related? got FWH's so you can drop it in 4wd without the hubs locked in & lock the hubs in while in 2wd? Seems to happen more when im taking off in lower gears.... Ive jumped under the truck and given most of the running gear a wiggle and can not see any movement or rattles.... no FWH, autos. Used my iphone, so it picks up on wayyy to much and its hard to hear, but at the very beginning, you can hear the tink tink tink sound http://s1214.photobucket.com/user/onein ... b.mp4.html
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:03 pm |
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could be a front uni joint... bit hard to tell in that vid & IMO being in 4wd & on tarmac isn't such a good idea especially turning corners, your CV's are going to have a bad time.
there is also a small roller bearing in the front hub that the outer CV shaft runs on & it usually gets ignored when doing wheel bearings etc.
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oneinkedgeek
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:32 pm Posts: 154
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:19 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: could be a front uni joint... bit hard to tell in that vid & IMO being in 4wd & on tarmac isn't such a good idea especially turning corners, your CV's are going to have a bad time.
there is also a small roller bearing in the front hub that the outer CV shaft runs on & it usually gets ignored when doing wheel bearings etc. Yeah i dont usually do that on sealed roads.. was just to capture that sound and then she went back intp rwd. Thanks for the tips ill look into those tomorrow
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2655 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: JB420, APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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CVs on that model are always turning, even in 2WD, so the only additional parts moving in 4WD are the ring & pinion and the front drive shaft (plus the t/case internals) - tinking noise as in tink-tink-tink - suggests driveshaft UJs to me.
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oneinkedgeek
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:32 pm Posts: 154
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:31 am |
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Thanks for the replys guys, I put the truck up on stands and managed to work out that it was the pinion bearing, which you guys were all saying it was likley to be. Its also started leaking diff oil from the back seal.
Anyone over there do rebuild kits for front diff of 2002 GV ?
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oneinkedgeek
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:32 pm Posts: 154
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:54 pm |
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so while putting front strut extenders in tonight i found that i had a oil puddle coming from the diff.... so now i have r00ted pinion bearing and a massssive crack in the housing...... shes a gonna.
time for steel diff
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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I was gonna ask if you had put a steel diff in yet, that answers that and that noise is more than a bearing 
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oneinkedgeek
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:32 pm Posts: 154
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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I have purchased:
-Steel housing and third member with 5.125 ratio ring and pinion. -2 spider carrier with the 26 spline side gears, NOT the vacuum operated free wheel carrier. -RH CV and LH shaft from a 26 spline non vacuum front diff.
Sexy Sexy !!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:18 pm |
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rear 5.12?
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oneinkedgeek
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:32 pm Posts: 154
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:25 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: rear 5.12? Yip, checked that when i did my rear locker
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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ahhh cool, so that confirms that the manual GV 1.6 (SQ416) is 5.12:1 or did you swap that ratio in?
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oneinkedgeek
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:32 pm Posts: 154
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:01 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: ahhh cool, so that confirms that the manual GV 1.6 (SQ416) is 5.12:1 or did you swap that ratio in? Nah thats the ratio they come with, 2nd gear low 4, 30's/9.5/r16, 5000 rpm is where the magic happens
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