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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Great stuff.
I have emailed them just now. Thanks.
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luke1122
Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 8:13 am Posts: 142 Location: gold coast
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ok so iv read through this and i wont to no what reansfer i can run in my 99 jimny non vvt manual? or do i just ndd to do the sierra t-case im not to keen on. id like to run 30's if i can get the gearing better cheers all
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Sierra case would be a better fit than for the later ones.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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What reduction would I get if I put a WT sierra transfer into my vvt jimny? Have looked at heaps of graphs but can't work out the high and low range reduction.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Is yours Manual or Auto? Do you know what the ratios are of teh WT case? I'm not all that familiar with them.
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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I have an interest in the result of this too, my brother and I worked out that he would be using 4.9:1's with a non-VVT gearbox. Or something along those lines.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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shep wrote: What reduction would I get if I put a WT sierra transfer into my vvt jimny? Have looked at heaps of graphs but can't work out the high and low range reduction. Zukenutter worked out a while it ago and it was in between 30-40% of the top of my head. Good for 35s 
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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11acb

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Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:12 pm Posts: 151 Location: southside Brisbane, Queensland
Vehicle: jimny 3"jb lift 235/75/15
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can I use any older tc as I read that graph on page 1 it seems they are all 1.32 except the vvt manual, I would prefer the tc with a stick rather than the auto shit
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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Yes but the intermediate shaft will be the wrong length. Pretty sure it's too short and an earlier model shaft is the wrong spline so you'd need a custom shaft
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11acb

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Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:12 pm Posts: 151 Location: southside Brisbane, Queensland
Vehicle: jimny 3"jb lift 235/75/15
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Oh I see well there you go. Cheers zooknutter
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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Rethinking this and a 20mm spacer would fix the shaft length. Has been a while since I tried this and my old brain doesn't remember stuff as well as it used to 
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11acb

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Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:12 pm Posts: 151 Location: southside Brisbane, Queensland
Vehicle: jimny 3"jb lift 235/75/15
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Yea bit of stuffing round anyway. And after reading a bit more I see the low range difference is not enough for me. Would of liked to do a Sierra swap but having trouble sorting the right parts. Think I'll just take a punt on the auto vvt seems could be the simple option. Was hoping to get away from the auto selector as well though
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Scomak
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:46 pm Posts: 10 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 2008 Suzuki Jimny
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http://www.never2mu.ch/Jimny_Infos/TransferDownGear_02.pdf"2. Down Gear x 4 sets (15% down Hi, 104% down Low) 146000 JPY you can get 15% down Hi and 104% down Low by change of 4 gear sets." Anyone know where I can buy this from? Tax return time and I'm looking to bump my tires up to 31" but want to sort reduction gears, Don't really want to swap the transfer to an old sierra style, just want to change the gears in mine (2008 Jim). Any suggestions and links as to where I can buy gears from for my style transfer? Basically want to buy the gears then just drop the lot off to my 4x4 mechanic  cheers guys
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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EDIT
Just re-read your post. For your transfer it's not cheap to reduce high and low at different percentages.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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APIO do a low only reduction but nobody I know of has bought them because of the price. Otherwise it's 20% high/20% low (Also 24% and 27%)
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Nearly ready to bring in Pro track gears. VVT manual ratios Hi/Lo 7, 17 and 27% (might be 24%), and Low range 60% For old Jimny, Hi/Lo ratios will be 7.3, 15.3 and 24%, and Low range 60%
For production and shipping economy, I will place orders with a minimum qty of 4 of the same. Looking into economical shipping. Look out for a new thread with all the details.
I have determined that the 17/60 gear set is a great option for 29" tyres and probably even ok for 32", and even better if you have a 1.6 or 1.8L.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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good work bugsta
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pete_79
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 1571
Vehicle: 91 Tin Top
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Very interested in this Bugsta.
17/60 in standard VVT Jimny manual transfer case, right? If so will be keen for a price when you're ready to go.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Yes, for manual. Nothing developed for auto case at this stage. Except to say that you could put these gears in an auto case with a new chain to give the same ratios (1.07, 1.17,1.27). And I'm pretty sure the low range set would fit the auto but I will confirm this.
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pete_79
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 1571
Vehicle: 91 Tin Top
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Yeah looking for gearing options for a manual, I just ask because their site only has for '98 - '04 non VVT.
I Google translated nearly the whole site and no mention of newer models. I assumed you got more info from your emails with them.
*Edit At today's exchange rate they're $1400 per set, hoping bulk order prices will be a bit better.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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I have been communicating with them for nearly a year through the development. I will be the sole Australian distributor and will support the product. I'll be able to supply only, install into box, or do complete vehicle Install. I'll work out pricing for installation as it comes about.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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At $1400, that's half the cost of a full set of TJ+APIO. Don't forget shipping.
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pete_79
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 1571
Vehicle: 91 Tin Top
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Yeah it's all good mate, part of my day job is haggle prices. And we import machines from Europe everyday. Nice work on scoring the sole distributor, look forward to the updates. I'll be looking to buy a second hand case and fit the gears myself. Our Jimny only has 30,000ks on it, so would like to keep the original transfer as is for back up. I looked into the auto transfer mod about 6 months ago and that idiot zook wrecker in western Sydney wanted $1,400 for a 2011 auto transfer. I was still pissing myself laughing an hour later when the wreaker on the gold coast confirmed he could ship one to Sydney for $500 including freight.
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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hay bugsta doest this mean you get 2 sets of gears, one for the chain ratio, and a full replacement planetary set for 1400?
if so, what will be the price for the planetary alone? edit: as i already have both a auto transfer, a manual transfer, and a set of TJ gears for the manual transfer, i probably cant justify buying more gears, unless its a planetary set
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2010
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$1400??? What happened to the $5-600 you were talking about 6 months ago?
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pete_79
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 1571
Vehicle: 91 Tin Top
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I got that figure from the Euro price listed on the Protrack site converted to $AU.
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top jimny
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:41 am Posts: 69 Location: Brazil
Vehicle: Jimny
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Just FYI a reduction gearset can be put together by using gears and chain from an Auto VVT into a Manual VVT without changing the whole box. Suzuki are selling this kit here in Brazil, but it's about 30% reduction 8-P 
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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top jimny wrote: Just FYI a reduction gearset can be put together by using gears and chain from an Auto VVT into a Manual VVT without changing the whole box. Suzuki are selling this kit here in Brazil, but it's about 30% reduction 8-P
Have you got the part numbers for those bits?
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