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Post Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:19 pm 
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Ever since I put premium in my scooter it's been a bastard to start. :(

The fuel is probably thinking "Fuck, I'm not fueling this gay thing!"

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:08 pm 
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first tank with the 30" tyres and 2.5" yielded: 12.12L/100kms i accounted for the increase in tyre circumference so i am using an extra 2L/100kms so far time will tell if its more or less 1 tank is not very accurate.
will post an average when i have one.
btw this is with the air con on 90% of the time to keep the windscreen from fogging.

1st tank: 12.12/100
2nd tank: 11.7/100


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:11 pm 
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Suzuki maruti trayback. 31's on 1L diff and transfer ratios with 1.3 & aftermarket carby,. Weighs just shy of 1.4 ton with half a tank of fuel and nothing on the tray.
12.5L/100km average to and from work, half city half highway. thats tyre size taken into account, actual odometer readings pretty much make it 15L/100km.

highway, full tank to start with, loaded with all the 4wd recovery gear plus 3 large eskies (enough food & alcohol to feed 6 blokes for a week) and holding 110km/h (mostly) it guzzled about 15L/100km, again thats after accounting for the tyre size

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:22 pm 
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Using 98 will be better for your power train, but unless you tune it for the slower burning fuel, you will not see a big gain, tune it, much better.

explain one of these "power trains"to me?
is it electric? or steam?
fuel is fuel, the only difference is burn rate, burn speed, how clean it is, cetane rating and cost.


oops, didnt see this before, it was mean, as in engine, that is the inside, the whole power train. Smoother fuel, close to zero chance of pinging, so, far better for interbnals, or, power train.


I thought cetane was a diesel thing, not petrol ?

correct, i only work with diesel so excuse my lingo.
and fyi, i would rather burn my car in the bush than fill it with 91, and i would mince up dead puppies for fuel before i fill it with opel fuel up here.
as a eye opener,
i get around 10 itres/100 on 95 with 215s and loaded up
13.1/100 on 91
18/100 on opel.

i ran 91 in my old carby clunkers, but efi vvt, i will pay the extra 8 cents.
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Post Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:23 pm 
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My jimny on 31s with corrected speedo does 10L/100kms

With a 6x5 trailer with roof top tent, a set of beadlocked wheels, doing 120kph back from coffs 13L/100kms 8)

And tim's jimny fully loaded with roof rack used something like 15L/100kms, which has a newer motor and less weight to pull :?

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Post Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:28 pm 
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Best so far from my 2.5 v6 GV is 10.1L/100 with about 400km @100km/h and 100km city driving. Usually around 11.5-12L/100 around town.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:34 pm 
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'97 SWB G16b Vitara. 312,000km. Bullbar, Snorkel, 30" Nankang FT-9 Muddies.
11l/100km. Highway
Approx 16l/100 at home. Almost all cold start 3.5min trips with hard driving. Being on call is hard on a car. :roll:

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:09 pm 
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Just did a bit over 3000kms with a 2012 jimny auto, 215's, bull bar, roof basket, loaded with some stuff on the roof i averaged about 14-15litres/100kms the roof basket made a huge difference more so than any other mod ive done plus the extra weight. Generally i get 9l/100kms when i drive and about 10l/100kms when my missus drives. Interestingly while away i had covered everything on the roof(2x fold up seats, tent, folding table) with a tarp and it used more fuel with the tarp than when i didnt have the tarp on.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:57 pm 
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Just got a full tank reading for mine:

97 SV620 with 160,000km on 31" MTs (measured) and 5.12 diff gears, snorkel and 2.25" exhaust. Carrying bullbar, lights, shallow drawers full of recovery gear and tools, roof basket up top. All city driving, mostly nasty Sydney traffic, no AC used but I can be a bit heavy on the right foot...

57L of premo (to the "E" line) got me 343km, or 16.6L/100km - speedo is corrected for tyres and gearing and is within a bee's of the GPS reading so it's a pretty good indication. Not as good as I was hoping for, but not as bad as I had feared. Brakes and bearings are sorted, so I still don't think the motor is quite as it should be...


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:51 am 
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Over the last four tanks of fuel I have averaged 582, 582, 561 and 541 km's per tank from my GV625. This is a reading from a non-adjusted speedo running 225/75/16's, and snorkle. This dramatic increase in range of km's has coincided with full bearing replacements (front and rear - they were needed, not just me being anal) and the inclusion of free-wheeling hubs.
This is based off a 60L FILL each time, and has given me a non-adjusted reading of 10.3L/100, 10.0L/100, 10.2L/100 and 10.5L/100 respectively. With the subsequent adjustment of these values (and the TRUE km range), I would assume that these fuel figures will be down in the 9ish L/100 and if not....very close.

My average trip each day would inslude around 20kms of highway, and 10km of suburbia (includes some stop-start and at least three hill climbs of approx 100m-150m of elevation).

I am very happy with this, and while I do drive reasonably sedately, I am not slouch! I get up to speed from a standing start at a reasonable pace and don't try to beat everyone to the next set of lights and stick on (or just above the speed limit) where it is possible. I try to drive with forethought and try to use steady and predictable throttle application where possible - except in the wet (that's fun!).

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:36 pm 
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Nice figures Schmiffee! How much was it to change all wheel bearings?

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:32 pm 
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16.6L/100km


That's allot of juice, I wonder what it would put down on a freeway?

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:36 pm 
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Nice figures Schmiffee! How much was it to change all wheel bearings?


Rear cost me $238 including paying to have the old bearing taken off the rear axels? and the new ones put on. And the front cost me $262 for just the bearings alone and $74 for the front bearing tool (although I think it would be possible without this but it aids in getting the torque right during re-assembly). My brother assisted with the rear bearings/brakes disassembly and reassembly, while I was able to do the front myself (with the aid of a how-to located here somewhere).
Free-wheel-hubs I think cost me just over $60 posted and required a refurb, but with the aid of another "how-to" was able to do this myself!
First time I have even worked on my car to this extent so it was quite satisfying and the results I achieved made me even more chuffed.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:27 pm 
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Ok, i finally got some fuel economy figures, as worked out by the calcs on page 1...
These figures are for around town, some hwy, and some 4wheelin, and defo not driving like a granny... :lol:
( I do carry about 55kgs of tools, recover gear, and odd bits in the back all the time... )

Manual V6 GV using Premium 95RON, on 225/70/16 Tyres...
Filled up and took 39.65L
Trip meter showed 318kms
= 12.4L per 100kms

So expanding on that, if my calcs are right, theoretically, 60L would give me 482kms, and, if i used the whole 66L it would give me 530kms...

Will have to wait for a long trip to work out Highway figures... :D

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Did you work out the actual distance you travelled? Your tyres are bigger than standard so your trip meter will read less that actual distance.

No i didnt...
The tyres put me out by 4%, 100kph speedo = 96kph actual, so if i add 4% to my figures, that would be 318kms + 12.75kms = 330.75kms, so that would bring it down to 11.9L per 100kms... a 0.5L improvement... :D


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:57 am 
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on 205's my jimny got 7.5L/ 100k on 98 octane, without the fiberglass pod on the roof. with the pod, i struggled to get better than 8.9l/100
now with 30's pumped to 32psi, 7" taller, with the pod on, on 95 octane i still see 350k from a tank, 10.5~10.8l/100. ill be interested to see what difference taking the pod off the roof and putting it on a trailer makes...

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:13 am 
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Ok, i finally got some fuel economy figures, as worked out by the calcs on page 1...
These figures are around town, some hwy, and some 4wheelin, and defo not driving like a granny... :lol:
( I do carry about 100kgs of tools, recover gear, and odd bits in the back all the time... )

Manual V6 GV using Premium 95RON, on 225/70/16 Tyres...
Filled up and took 39.65L
Trip meter showed 318kms
= 12.4L per 100kms

So expanding on that, if my calcs are right, theoretically, 60L would give me 482kms, and, if i used the whole 66L it would give me 530kms...

Will have to wait for a long trip to work out Highway figures... :D

Did you work out the actual distance you travelled? Your tyres are bigger than standard so your trip meter will read less that actual distance.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:42 pm 
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Been running Premium 98 the last few tanks. Economy has not changed one bit... Still getting 15+L/100kms. Normally get around 380kms-400kms per 60L That's corrected as well.. Can't feel any difference in performance either. Probs just go back to E10.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:11 pm 
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I'm getting around 8.33l/100km (98 octane) in my 2001 manual jimny running 3 inch lift and 215/75/15's.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:28 pm 
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I got about 15l per 100kms on my way down from Perth in the LJ! 8O 1l engine, stock tyres. Might have to do something about that. :?

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:21 pm 
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I got about 15l per 100kms on my way down from Perth in the LJ! 8O 1l engine, stock tyres. Might have to do something about that. :?

would be cheaper to run than that with a chommonhore motor

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:26 pm 
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I wouldn't be able to afford the lube for all the cock that would enter my arse if I put a Commodore engine in an LJ.

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:27 am 
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MacDaddy wrote:
Ok, i finally got some fuel economy figures, as worked out by the calcs on page 1...
These figures are around town, some hwy, and some 4wheelin, and defo not driving like a granny... :lol:
( I do carry about 100kgs of tools, recover gear, and odd bits in the back all the time... )

Manual V6 GV using Premium 95RON, on 225/70/16 Tyres...
Filled up and took 39.65L
Trip meter showed 318kms
= 12.4L per 100kms

So expanding on that, if my calcs are right, theoretically, 60L would give me 482kms, and, if i used the whole 66L it would give me 530kms...

Will have to wait for a long trip to work out Highway figures... :D

Did you work out the actual distance you travelled? Your tyres are bigger than standard so your trip meter will read less that actual distance.

No i didnt...
The tyres put me out by 4%, 100kph speedo = 96kph actual, so again, if my calcs are right, if i add 4% to my figures, that would be 318kms + 12.75kms = 330.75kms, so that would bring it down to 11.9L per 100kms... a 0.5L improvement... :D

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:18 pm 
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I wouldn't be able to afford the lube for all the cock that would enter my arse if I put a Commodore engine in an LJ.

my point was damn thats dear to run!! my jeep has a 4.0L pushrod valient motor from the 70's with EFI bolted on, and the jeep weight double what ur zook would and with the 33"s and roof rack etc i still get 16/100

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I am getting an average of 9.8-10.2 lt/100km so basically 10lt/100km with my 2009 2.4lt Auto Grand Vitara 3door
Thats better than my Samurai but I havnt worked out acutual figures on that because I dont drive it very far.

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:14 pm 
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I am getting 10lt/100km with my 2009 2.4lt Auto Grand Vitara 3door.

thats pretty good for an auto

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:07 pm 
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So after putting in my new 50mm lift and 225,75r16 tyres I was interested in what my ecconomy would be. I was very happy to see it be really good though. I filled up the other day and put in 56L and the ODO was on 500km.

So with the tyre difference calculated in i actually did 540km/56L. Thats 10.37L/100km.

That included a nice run through the powerlines and mostly normal daily comute driving.

VERY happy!

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:48 pm 
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just wanted to know if V6 vitara's generally dring through a funnel when on the sand dunes? i usually average 12/100 but on my 1st trip over the dunes in the vit i used 1/2 tank and only did 100km's

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:55 pm 
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my best score in the dunes was around 33l/100km so that sounds about right, if you take it real easy it's probably about the same as day to day driving.

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:17 pm 
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my best score in the dunes was around 33l/100km so that sounds about right, if you take it real easy it's probably about the same as day to day driving.

cheers atari i have stock ratio's and 30"s i had to keep it above 3,000-3,500 RPM even on the beach on the (firm-ish) sand

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My 1.6 LWB Vit used an awful lot more towing the camper through the dunes, than a swb without.

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