[atari4x4]

245/70/16 is the size of the tyre they used for retreading & they work out to be a 30.5"

being a retread it will be very close to a 245/70/16 maybe a smidgen larger, still doesn't explain the shitty economy.

what's you driving style like, you a throttle jockey?

[twitchy]

Mine drinks fuel like a son of a bitch when an o2 sensor dies, just replaced one on the weekend & the difference is crazy.

[larry]

so on my 4th tank of 98 (since stepping up from e10) i decided to drive like a saint and see how good i could get my fuel economy as it seems like im guzzling way too much fuel
im running 32s and 5.12s. i do around 80-100kms per day most of which is doing 110 on the highway
just before my granny driver test i ran 2 tanks with injector cleaner (cause i got a code for injectors) also cleaned the throttle body and added a pod filter (highly reccommend, shouldve done it ages ago)

i got 13.8L/100kms although i havent accounted for speedo being out i think this is a bit shite
what are other people getting with similar tyres/h20

[atari4x4]

it's abit better than what i'm getting but i'm auto, should put it in this thread. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41756&hilit=dribble

[Chop]

I reckon there needs to be a reality thread started, especially for people getting V6 Vitara's and GV's.
And it should start with saying "Not fuel efficient cars" especially when modifying

[atari4x4]

Chop wrote:

I reckon there needs to be a reality thread started, especially for people getting V6 Vitara's and GV's.
And it should start with saying "Not fuel efficient cars" especially when modifying

+11ty

my wagon is shocking compared to the shorty... the auto doesn't help, but it's hell thirsty when you compare the 2 & it's essentially the exact same set up & i'm not running the roof basket on the blagon.

[karlmarkiewicz]

atari4x4 wrote:

245/70/16 is the size of the tyre they used for retreading & they work out to be a 30.5"

being a retread it will be very close to a 245/70/16 maybe a smidgen larger, still doesn't explain the shitty economy.

what's you driving style like, you a throttle jockey?

I don't consider my self a throttle jockey, I am always the slow one out of the bunch when taking off from the lights and i would never go more than half throttle when around the city.

twitchy wrote:

Mine drinks fuel like a son of a bitch when an o2 sensor dies, just replaced one on the weekend & the difference is crazy.

Yeah, well i just changed both 02 sensors and got next to no results (so far)

larry wrote:

what are other people getting with similar tyres/h20

I get about 18L - 20L/100k

Chop wrote:

I reckon there needs to be a reality thread started, especially for people getting V6 Vitara's and GV's.
And it should start with saying "Not fuel efficient cars" especially when modifying

I have come to realize vitaras are definitely not as efficient as people make them out to be, although mine seems to be quite terrible compared to others on this forum.

[larry]

13.8L/100 was driving as conservatively as possible. if i drive normal/punching it on freeway on ramp i struggle to get 350ks from 60L which i think is pretty poor even with bigger tyres
the reason i thought id ask was because i saw someone post in the h20 > h27 thread that they were returning 11-12L/100 on their freshly installed 2.7 and im jealous

[atari4x4]

that was stuey with the 2.7l SV420

[karlmarkiewicz]

larry wrote:

13.8L/100 was driving as conservatively as possible. if i drive normal/punching it on freeway on ramp i struggle to get 350ks from 60L which i think is pretty poor even with bigger tyres
the reason i thought id ask was because i saw someone post in the h20 > h27 thread that they were returning 11-12L/100 on their freshly installed 2.7 and im jealous

13.8L is probably what i would get along the highway when i am not fully loaded. I haven't done too many tests on the highway but i would say 14L would be about right. So we are getting close to the same maybe? Is yours a SV620?
12L is crazy, would be over the moon with that.

[DarkHorse]

Yep, I'd be happy with 12/100. Reckon I'd get close on a long flat highway run (bigger tyres actually help by lowering the revs while cruising - or at least offsetting the added resistance/leverage) but any slope or stop/start roadwork crap and I think I'd be higher... let alone traffic or offfroad.

As per the fuel thread - I'm currently getting 16.6L/100km in Sydney traffic, so that should be about worst case scenario for economy (especially considering my less than serene temperament behind the wheel...)

[Stuey]

In response to my fuel economy I can verify I am returning on average 11-12 L/100km. When country driving through hilly terrain, this can turn into 15-19 per 100. Generally when it's that high I'm usually towing. On my recent trip to Kalbarri I worked out that I was averaging 15L/100km with a laden car and 6x4 heavy cage trailer in tow. But like I say, around town around 11-12 on average. You can see from this pick my last fill up was down to 10! The peaks in the graph are obviously country or towing runs. What you see here is only a record of since the V6 went in.

[karlmarkiewicz]

DarkHorse wrote:

Yep, I'd be happy with 12/100. Reckon I'd get close on a long flat highway run (bigger tyres actually help by lowering the revs while cruising - or at least offsetting the added resistance/leverage) but any slope or stop/start roadwork crap and I think I'd be higher... let alone traffic or offfroad.

As per the fuel thread - I'm currently getting 16.6L/100km in Sydney traffic, so that should be about worst case scenario for economy (especially considering my less than serene temperament behind the wheel...)

Yeah, I wouldn't mind too much if i was getting 16L/100km as i have done mods that make the car less economical. But i think 18 - 20 L/100K is a bit much.

UPDATE: Over the weekend I went on a camping trip. Before the trip I filled right up. The trip consisted of 45 mins (about 60 km or so) of highway driving at the start, then about 12 hours of PURE off road driving (variety of different difficulty terrains). When i got to the servo the vitara took 43.3 Litres and the trip meter read 273 (not including tyres). Since i filled RIGHT up at the beginning, that means in 273 kms it used 43.3 L, which equates to 15.8L/100km (not including tyres). That is not bad. I noticed this a while ago, but my car is actually quite economical on the dirt considering, i think it is because my foot is literally hovering over the pedal the hole time, and i would rarely go past quarter throttle. Anyone else notice good economy off road?

ALSO, I figured out how much my speedo is out by. If my GPS is right, when my speedo says 90, GPS says 94. When my speedo says 40, GPS says 42, and when the speedo says 95, GPS says 100. With these values i averaged that my speedo is out by roughly 5%. Meaning the 15.8L/100km i calculated for off road driving would REALLY be 15.1L/100km (big whoop).

Stuey, you have a 4 cyl don't you? I have a V6 which chews a heap more, although mine is nearly double your consumption

[Stuey]

Mine was a 4 cyl. It is now a 2.7 V6. Those fuel figures reflect the V6 consumption.

[karlmarkiewicz]

Stuey wrote:

Mine was a 4 cyl. It is now a 2.7 V6. Those fuel figures reflect the V6 consumption.

Ohh, okay. It is a 2 door isn't it?

[Stuey]

Yes, so there will be some weight advantage, but I'm still running 31s, with a roof basket up top and four 210mm spotties which adds an awful lot of wind drag. With the basket and lights off I believe I would run around 10l/100 on average around the city.

[karlmarkiewicz]

Stuey wrote:

Yes, so there will be some weight advantage, but I'm still running 31s, with a roof basket up top and four 210mm spotties which adds an awful lot of wind drag. With the basket and lights off I believe I would run around 10l/100 on average around the city.

Yeah, 11L/100km is really good even for a 4 cyl, specially since it is a much bigger engine.

[larry]

yeah stuey your on 31s with 5.12s aye? that fuel consumption is sexy as. if the gv boys are getting close to that im fast tracking my conversion

karl thats not too bad, when my speedo reads 90 gps says 105 haha

[karlmarkiewicz]

larry wrote:

yeah stuey your on 31s with 5.12s aye? that fuel consumption is sexy as. if the gv boys are getting close to that im fast tracking my conversion

karl thats not too bad, when my speedo reads 90 gps says 105 haha

Yeah, i'd say the 5.12's corrected it a bit. That is terrible! hahaha

[larry]

mine has 5.12s also its just tyres putting it out.

doesnt take long to get used to, and my car doesnt age as quickly now haha

[karlmarkiewicz]

larry wrote:

mine has 5.12s also its just tyres putting it out.

doesnt take long to get used to, and my car doesnt age as quickly now haha

Oh wow, crazy. Hahah yeah suppose that is another upside.

[karlmarkiewicz]

I know this is not overly relevant to this thread, but it is just a small question that should be easily clarified. Everyone keeps saying Ryco oil filters aren't very good for Vitaras. I just called my local parts dealer and he said 'Ryco meet and exceed all genuine factory filters, and they sometimes make filters for companies'. They only stock Ryco or Wesfil oil filters, Wesfil is $10.50 and Ryco is $21.70. My question is is there a HUGE difference between the genuine and a non genuine oil filter (i do not yet have the chain rattle)? If not, Ryco or Wesfil, which one?
Sorry again about posting in wrong thread, although i know you guys know this Thanks

[tassie jeeper]

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

\\(i do not yet have the chain rattle)? If not, Ryco or Wesfil, which one?\

genuine suzuki filter i wouldnt run anything else (have to buy from dealer its cheaper than ryco @ $15.00

my average fuel economy inc making allowance for the tyre size is 12/100 with a near stock SV620 i have a pod filter 2" exhaust 60mm lift and 30" muddies with stock gearing (i was getting 10/100 before adding lift/tyres) thats with combined highway/city driving with the air con on

[larry]

jeeper did you put the pod filter straight on the end of the hard plastic intake pipe? what did you do with the IAT sensor? (the one that goes into the stock airbox).
since putting my pod filter on (and cleaning the throttle body) mines idling at 1.5-2k rpm and feels like its running heaps rich from cold start. im not sure if its cause of the IAT sensor not being in the box or if ive sprayed solvent into the MAF sensor and fucked it when cleaning the throttle :S

[JrZook]

larry wrote:

or if ive sprayed solvent into the MAF sensor and fucked it when cleaning the throttle :S

Most probable cause

[karlmarkiewicz]

tassie jeeper wrote:

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

\\(i do not yet have the chain rattle)? If not, Ryco or Wesfil, which one?\

genuine suzuki filter i wouldnt run anything else (have to buy from dealer its cheaper than ryco @ $15.00

I only know this site for genuine suzuki parts: http://www.suzistore.com.au/onlinestore ... 91745.html
They have two oil filters one for $16 (without shipping, which is an additional $10) and one for $26. Are you buying your genuine filter online? If so, what site?

tassie jeeper wrote:

my average fuel economy inc making allowance for the tyre size is 12/100 with a near stock SV620 i have a pod filter 2" exhaust 60mm lift and 30" muddies with stock gearing (i was getting 10/100 before adding lift/tyres) thats with combined highway/city driving with the air con on

That is ridiculously good.

[tassie jeeper]

larry wrote:

jeeper did you put the pod filter straight on the end of the hard plastic intake pipe? what did you do with the IAT sensor? (the one that goes into the stock airbox).
since putting my pod filter on (and cleaning the throttle body) mines idling at 1.5-2k rpm and feels like its running heaps rich from cold start.

i made an adapter for mine because the air filter would not fit on my plastic intake pipe.
its a steel pipe which is smaller on 1 end for the plastic tube and bigger on the other for the pod, i drilled a 20mm hole in it and placed the IAT sensor ans its rubber bung straight in it does idle a little high when cold about 1500 RPM's (APROX) but is fine once it reaches 1/8 on the temp gauge hope this helps.
I can post pics later @ your request...?
also my filter is sitting inside the stock lower half of the air box.

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

Are you buying your genuine filter online? If so, what site?

i drove down to the local suzuki dealership and purchased it from the parts department

[karlmarkiewicz]

tassie jeeper wrote:

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

Are you buying your genuine filter online? If so, what site?

i drove down to the local suzuki dealership and purchased it from the parts department

Oh, okay. Well I only have Sunday available to service my car and it is obviously too late to get the Genuine filter online. So it looks like I will have to go with Ryco, unless a cheaper brand is better for my car? Everyone keeps saying Ryco is bad, does that mean all other brands apart from the Genuine is bad, or is ONLY Ryco bad?

[karlmarkiewicz]

Just an Update. Last tank i did 300 Kilometers on the taco, and with a 5% difference in my speedo, that is really 315km. I did this in 50L, hence giving me the consumption of 15.9L/100km (counting tyres). ALTHOUGH, the first 160km of this tank were pure highway driving, hence the good economy compared to previous tanks. About at about the 180km mark I serviced that car, which entailed a New fuel filter, Air filter, Coolant Flush, Engine Oil flush and new oi filter. Obviously the service didn't doo much :/

[atari4x4]

that's a vast improvement over your 22l/100kms... remove the front bar, light bar etc off the roof & put stock wheels back on if you're that concerned about economy.