[niran]

Hey everyone,

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this, so if it isnt admin you are welcome to move it to the corresponding section. Also sorry in advance if this has been covered before, I did use the search function and after going through 20 out of the 205 pages that came up, I thought I might make a new topic.

Due to my stock sierra motor blowing bulk smoke and drinking oil as if it was fuel, I thought it was time to put another engine. I found a 1992 vitara jlx for cheap and the plan is to remove the g16 and put it into my 1985 NT sierra/holden drover.

My question is, what do I need to do this conversion successfully and what should I look out for?

After doing some reading and searching I found that an adapter plate needs to be bought to mount the engine to the stock 1.3 gearbox, also that the driver side engine mount needs to be shifted. I found a conversion plate/kit that suzzi store in Midland, Perth sell for $325 (link : http://www.suzistore.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=864 ). Reading a bit more I found that (correct me if im wrong) you use the g13a clutch and fly wheel. Other than that, you need to shave a bit of the starter motor? Is that only if its the g13 starter motor, what happens/can I use the g16 starter and if so will it fit without needing to be shaved?

Is there anything else I need to know/do for this conversion to work correctly? I've heard the front pulley's can be a close fit to the radiator, is there any recommendations to what I should do?

On that note what else should I put from my vitara whilst I'm doing this conversion, which I could benefit from. The vit has power steering too, should I put that into the sierra whilst I'm there, or is that alot of fabrication? I noticed on these forums a few people mentioned Ben-t adaptor plates, I unfortunately am new to the conversion's so don't know who this is, but again any help/information would be really appreciated.

Thanks for any ones help in advance

[zukmeista]

Hi, BenT's adapter kit can be found in the buisness directory on here. It comes with full instructions on what to do. The pulleys will be fine. You will need an adapter to fit the Vit P/S box, which BenT also sells.

[christover1]

Another option is to fit the Vitara engine and gearbox into the Sierra.
Thats worth a search , too,
as the Vit box is supposed to be stronger

[want33s]

Vit motor will need Sierra sump & pickup fitted to it.

[niran]

zukmeista wrote:

Hi, BenT's adapter kit can be found in the buisness directory on here. It comes with full instructions on what to do. The pulleys will be fine. You will need an adapter to fit the Vit P/S box, which BenT also sells.

Cheers mate, Found the thread and sent him a PM

[niran]

christover1 wrote:

Another option is to fit the Vitara engine and gearbox into the Sierra.
Thats worth a search , too,
as the Vit box is supposed to be stronger

Thanks for that information, Will have a read about it soon and decide

[niran]

want33s wrote:

Vit motor will need Sierra sump & pickup fitted to it.

I see, Is this due to the Diff clearance or does it hit something else? Are the bolting pattern the same in both, as in if I was to do that which sump gasket would I use ? (I presume its the same, but just in case haha)

[niran]

Hey guys/girls

Does the Sierra exhaust bolt directly onto the Vitara exhaust manifold?

Cheers

[zukmeista]

The sump needs to be changed because of diff clearance, they are the same bolt pattern, don't bother with a gasket just use some goo on it. The oil pickup will need to be cut and welded. Yes the 1.3 exhaust will bolt onto an 8-valve 1600.

[niran]

zukmeista wrote:

The sump needs to be changed because of diff clearance, they are the same bolt pattern, don't bother with a gasket just use some goo on it. The oil pickup will need to be cut and welded. Yes the 1.3 exhaust will bolt onto an 8-valve 1600.

Ah fantastic, Will sort all that out. Cheers for all the help .. Is there anything else I need to do or is that pretty much it

[zukmeista]

Some of the carby wiring may be a bit different, and the distributor needs some wiring done too. Piece of piss to do though.

[shep]

If your front diff is moved forward then you don't need to swap sumps

[zukmeista]

Still a good idea for a vehicle used offroad though, as the sierra setup is less likely to run dry on big angles.

[niran]

zukmeista wrote:

Some of the carby wiring may be a bit different, and the distributor needs some wiring done too. Piece of piss to do though.

Oh really? Any Idea what those wires would be.. I saw there is one which is a sensor that goes into the carby.. off it comes 2 wires one looks like its grounded to the body and the other one I'm not quiet sure where it goes.. Will get a photo soon

[niran]

shep wrote:

If your front diff is moved forward then you don't need to swap sumps

I see, I presume that would be more work than swapping the sumps over?

[zukmeista]

niran wrote:

shep wrote:

If your front diff is moved forward then you don't need to swap sumps

I see, I presume that would be more work than swapping the sumps over?

Yes. It involves removing the front diff to redrill the spring perch holes.

[zukmeista]

niran wrote:

zukmeista wrote:

Some of the carby wiring may be a bit different, and the distributor needs some wiring done too. Piece of piss to do though.

Oh really? Any Idea what those wires would be.. I saw there is one which is a sensor that goes into the carby.. off it comes 2 wires one looks like its grounded to the body and the other one I'm not quiet sure where it goes.. Will get a photo soon

I'm pretty sure the only wire you need is the fuel cutoff solenoid, that's all I hooked up and mine runs ok.

[niran]

zukmeista wrote:

niran wrote:

zukmeista wrote:

Some of the carby wiring may be a bit different, and the distributor needs some wiring done too. Piece of piss to do though.

Oh really? Any Idea what those wires would be.. I saw there is one which is a sensor that goes into the carby.. off it comes 2 wires one looks like its grounded to the body and the other one I'm not quiet sure where it goes.. Will get a photo soon

I'm pretty sure the only wire you need is the fuel cutoff solenoid, that's all I hooked up and mine runs ok.

Thanks for all your help Zukmeista, Nearly got the vitara engine out now haha, just about to remove the bolts around the gearbox/engine and it should come out.

I've marked all the vac lines/wires I removed, just so I don't forget where they went

[zukmeista]

No, worries, you will enjoy the extra power/torque, I did.

[niran]

Hey everyone,

I had some time today, so finally got the Vitara engine out and chucked it on an engine stand to do all the seals while it’s out of the car.

I noticed however that the exhaust flange is different (the one which connects to the end of the manifold). The sierra one is a single style with a circular gasket, however the Vitara one has two opening’s and sits on a flat gasket.. Do I need to swap the manifolds over/the front part of the exhaust ?

I've uploaded a photo of the gasket style which was off the Vitara

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Cheers, Ni

[zukmeista]

Just put the manifold off the 1300 onto the 1600.

[niran]

Hey guys,

Haven't been on for a while as I've been a bit busy but I've managed to clean up the engine, put all new seals in the engine and box, belts, timing belt, water pump, gaskets and anything else external haha..

Here are a few photos of the progress

[niran]

Also, I have a quick question in regards to the wiring.. I've seemed to have found where all the wires go except one (correct me if I'm wrong though)



So far I this is what I have:
-Yellow with black stripe - goes to the oil pressure sender
-red with white stripe - goes to the alternator socket
-black with white stripe - goes to the alternator socket
-green with black stripe - this joins to the dizzy further on.. in which the wire becomes brown with white stripe.. I found a brown and white stripe on my sierra body near the original dizzy so was going to connect it too that, is that correct?
- light brown - This is the wire I'm unsure about, does anybody know where this should connect too on the Sierra side?

Thanks for any help, Ni