[watermouse]

I had to go out and buy a G16 starter motor for the conversion so I picked up a baleno one today.
It doesnt fit the BenT adapter. By a long way.






with the motor in approximately the right position in the centre of the cutout only one hole lines up, the other is almost hanging off the plate.

I haven't read anywhere that I need a particular kind of starter motor other than a "1.6" but it seems I do.
Is a 1.6 vitara starter motor different? has anyone else had this problem?

[Fatzook]

Pretty sure the Baleno starter is different, as they use a different gearbox to the vitara.

You'll need to get a 16v vitara starter.

[watermouse]

thanks fatzook
i thought that would be the case.

and I would have thought this would crop up quite often with everyone chasing baleno engines for their conversions.

back to the wreckers.... this time I will have adapter in hand.

[Mickc]

If it is a g16b baleno block, they have a lot more metal around starter area.
And you need to carry block around to make sure it fits, nah just kidding, but you will
need a starter with a small diameter motor and gears in the housing just like the baleno starter.
Maybe of X90 or late model G16a/b efi vitara. (not carby models ? )

You can grind a 1.3 starter to suit.

[Fatzook]

Mickc wrote:

If it is a g16b baleno block, they have a lot more metal around starter area.
And you need to carry block around to make sure it fits, nah just kidding, but you will
need a starter with a small diameter motor and gears in the housing just like the baleno starter.
Maybe of X90 or late model G16a/b efi vitara. (not carby models ? )

You can grind a 1.3 starter to suit.

This.

AFAIK, the G13 sierra and G16a carby starters are interchangable.

Most new starters for G16B are small body, so should be fine.

[watermouse]

Yeah, I bought the starter because of the narrow body but wasn't aware of the different bolt patterns for them.
hopefully will have the right one in a couple of hours.

BenT instructions mention grinding the 1.3 starter but it wasn't recommended. The engine swap is happening this weekend so I want to have all my ducks in a row as much as possible. I cant afford to have the car out of action for too long.

[christover1]

My LWB Vitara G16B 1993 runs a fat starter that looks like the 1.3.
It still fits now I have the G16A EFI Swift import motor fitted.
Don't know if this is relevant, but may help someone.

[Mickc]

christover1 wrote

"My LWB Vitara G16B 1993 runs a fat starter that looks like the 1.3.
It still fits now I have the G16A EFI Swift import motor fitted."

Same for imported G16a vit efi starti I have, it will fit by spare g16a swift block and g13
but not baleno G16b ( coil pak motor )

[watermouse]

So they couldn't find a narrow bodied 1.6 vitara starter motor in the racks and piles of suzuki starter motors they had. But I ended up with a JTD (new GV J24B) starter motor. fits the adapter, narrow body, same gear teeth size thrust distance etc as the jimny 1.3 one I had to compare it to.

Looks the goods, will report back if it works.

[watermouse]

I can confirm the JTD J24B starter motor (narrow body) is good for 1.6 conversions.

[Fatzook]

Nice find.