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superworc

Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:08 pm
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:44 pm

hey just got a1994 sierra ,which is better vitara 1.6 carby or efi
needs a little more power ?

buzbox

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:47 pm

efi...

that is all.

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Gwagensteve

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:55 pm

EFI 1.6 is 484874874784743764376067608659785487400 better than carb 1.6.

Steve.

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:02 pm

EFI...

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gvzookdriver

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:36 pm

I'll join in as well EFI

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atari4x4

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:42 pm

what they said, but preferably without the cracked blocks that seems to be plaguing the G16b's.

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Gwagensteve

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:58 pm

G16A carbies crack blocks too.

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Reubs

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:59 pm

atari4x4 wrote:

what they said, but preferably without the cracked blocks that seems to be plaguing the G16b's.

Happens to G16a as well - I have owned 3 cracked G16a engines as well as the G16b in my Vit!

The G16a in my white coily was cracked at the front and the rear of the block!

tonyteb

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:15 pm

I know I should use the search function but its pain on the butt on this mobile. Can someone give quick answer as to why they keep cracking?

atari4x4

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:23 pm

so it's official G16 suck the big one... jam a J20a or a H25a in there & be done with it.

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sideways

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:03 pm

G13b or G13bb FTW!

BlueSuzy

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:17 pm

G's have been cracking for years

EFI G16b.

If your fitting a J, You may as well go H27

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I'm over the G16b's.

Reubs

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:10 pm

BlueSuzy wrote:

G's have been cracking for years

Funny thing is every G16 I've owned thus far has had at least 1 very small crack on the drivers side of the block!

There aren't too many cracked G13 engines around to my knowledge...

BlueSuzy

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:23 pm

Youve been lucky!

Ive never had a cracked one, But have only ever had baleno. Ive cooked one and she still went like a cat on fire with oil bubbling and black smoke. Only thing that stopped me was the crank sensor melted casing, arcing out onto the sump. Block didnt crack. :lol:

I then changed the whole engine..

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I'm over the G16b's.

stockman

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:06 am

So it's safe to say the g16's are a cracking motor!

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buzbox

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:11 am

stockman wrote:

So it's safe to say the g16's are a cracking motor!

Boom tsssh

They crack because they were made with alloy that isn't the greatest quality, with years of expansion and contraction even the best alloys will crack.

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31zook

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:28 am

So I should shoe horn a J20+AW4 into my Jim then aye...

BlueSuzy

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:10 am

31zook wrote:

So I should shoe horn a J20+AW4 into my Jim then aye...

nah just get a baleno block

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BlueSuzy wrote:

I'm over the G16b's.

Teracis

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:56 am

BlueSuzy wrote:

31zook wrote:

So I should shoe horn a J20+AW4 into my Jim then aye...

nah just get a baleno block

Got the baleno motor, it's the putting it in that is going to be the long part...

sideways

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:05 am

How many km are Bal engines good for? 200-300k like Vits?

xedent

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:28 am

sideways wrote:

How many km are Bal engines good for? 200-300k like Vits?

They should be no different.

sideways

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:57 am

I figure in a Bal they're much less stressed than in a Vit.

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:02 pm

I know the block castings are different

Different mounts as vit for ps pump
Different front casting section for crank sensor

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I'm over the G16b's.

rob45x

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:27 pm

Has anyone slipped a J20A into a sierra??
I have seen many conversion kits for 1.6 but not for a 2.0

Fatzook

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:38 pm

rob45x wrote:

Has anyone slipped a J20A into a sierra??
I have seen many conversion kits for 1.6 but not for a 2.0

Yeah its been done plenty of times.

Conversion kit.... http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=18&category_id=66&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

Tanshi got his running with the J20, before tearing it down.

I'm half way through the same conversion.

IMO its more work, but if you are happy to address the strength issues with the rest of the drive line the J20 is a stella choice for a sierra ( atleast on paper ). Worth mentioning that the fit quite well into the engine bay.

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rob45x

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:16 am

Strength issues ? Gearbox and diffs ?

tanshi

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:41 am

i have one in my LJ now

Fatzook

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:35 pm

rob45x wrote:

Strength issues ? Gearbox and diffs ?

yep.

Other suspect parts would be the transfer case ( long term) and deifnately uni-joints. Upgrading to hilux based drive shafts would be a good idea.

There is no reason why you couldn't just drop the motor in and address these other things as they become an issue, but just be aware that a J20 FAR exceeds the power and tourque handling abilities of most of the sierra drive train.

And a brake upgrade is a must!

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rob45x

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:46 pm

Then 1.6 efi is probably enough !

tanshi

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:51 pm

the 1.3 carby is enough. but the best?

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