[camshaft]

hey guys iv had this idea of putting a D4D in a stockmen and a coil all round conversion just wanting to know ur thoughts and if u think it posible.
now i dont want it to be a comp truck i want it as a daily so good life and 33s wat do u think?

[Trypt]

d4d... my immediate thoughts are too heavy, too much power/torque.
and toymota's dont belong in zooks.

whats wrong with a g16?

[camshaft]

i want a desel

[Trypt]

1.6 or 1.9 vw diesel. http://www.rocky-road.com/samurai-diesel.html

[atari4x4]

not this shit again... diesels are waste of time & money unless it's a truck or farm equipment. IMO

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31418&hilit=diesel+sierra+conversion

[camshaft]

diesels r a far more superior motor for 4wd applications

[atari4x4]

mabe if it waz powahring hilex or a patroll... not the best choise for a suzuki

[Trypt]

atari4x4 wrote:

mabe if it waz powahring hilex or a patroll... not the best choise for a suzuki

x2 you dont need 350+nm to move 1200kg.

[camshaft]

true but better fuel economy and i just like diesels

[got_bar_work]

Diesels are only good for towing
They have shit power to weight
Small power and rev range
There every thing u dont want in a 4wd
Gear a petrol low enough and it will lug up a hill at 1500rpm to but still be able to spin up 6g when u need a bit of wheel speed in a hurry
In steep rocks u tend to have to drive the diesel in to high a gear to get the wheel speed needed to stop u fliping the car which kills the controll creeping up to the step
Rant off

[Trypt]

if ur heart is set on a diesel go with one of vw options or smaller again. Diesel engines by there very nature are shite loads heavier.
a d4d will not only be too heavy but will destroy your driveline, just like rhinoperformances 40" truck wheels
Apart from the obvious benefits of being easier to fit and maintain a recoed 1.6 will last longer than a d4d.

[atari4x4]

camshaft wrote:

true but better fuel economy and i just like diesels

i see you owning a hilux sometime soon.

[Trypt]

[jdk81]

Probably best to keep it as an idea (bad idea), like the rest of us have done.

Stick with your patrol.

[Gwagensteve]

camshaft wrote:

diesels r a far more superior motor for 4wd applications

Not in a suzuki they're not.

Steve.

[Scrawny]

Trypt wrote:

a recoed 1.6 will last longer than a d4d.

REALLY????? Based on what?

[Trypt]

Scrawn wrote:

Trypt wrote:

a recoed 1.6 will last longer than a d4d.

REALLY????? Based on what?

They are extremely under stressed over engineered motor. Simple mechanical injection with nowhere near the CR or Fuel pressure of modern common rail diesels. Good friend of mine has an old golf with a motor that has seen three cars. Over 800000 K's half of which on fish n chip oil.

[Shansh]

do it, i reckon you have the skills and knowledge to make it happen, dont listen to these blokes who have tried most stuff you could think of and a fair few things you havent, i reckon you should chuck a big diesel in and go rip n tear

[atari4x4]

Trypt wrote:

Scrawn wrote:

Trypt wrote:

a recoed 1.6 will last longer than a d4d.

REALLY????? Based on what?

They are extremely under stressed over engineered motor. Simple mechanical injection with nowhere near the CR or Fuel pressure of modern common rail diesels. Good friend of mine has an old golf with a motor that has seen three cars. Over 800000 K's half of which on fish n chip oil.

how about all the cracked G16B's blocks getting around or stuffed G16 heads.

[Trypt]

WTF! I'm talking about the VW 1.6 tdi...

[atari4x4]

Trypt wrote:

whats wrong with a g16?

sorry, thought you were still talking about the petrol G16

[camshaft]

it was just and idea iv alwaysed loved the smallness of suzis but wanted the fuel econ and well lets face it diesels r better with water...
but yah i thought the d4d would b to big but i never though of the vw motor

[DarkHorse]

My petrol 1.6 hauling my heavier-than-normal Vit on 31s had comparable fuel consumption to my mates TD LC80.

Small motors in small cars (even with not-so-small tyres) don't use a whole lot of juice.

As for water - chuck a snorkel on it and you'll drown before the motor does.

[Scrawny]

Trypt wrote:

Scrawn wrote:

Trypt wrote:

a recoed 1.6 will last longer than a d4d.

REALLY????? Based on what?

They are extremely under stressed over engineered motor. Simple mechanical injection with nowhere near the CR or Fuel pressure of modern common rail diesels. Good friend of mine has an old golf with a motor that has seen three cars. Over 800000 K's half of which on fish n chip oil.

So based purely on opinion, that's cool. I was looking after a 08 Hiace van with the 3.0 D4D motor that was approaching 450,000kms. It still had the original injectors and pump in it, driven hard day and night, extended service intervals (15-20,000) and it used no oil and blew little to no smoke. I think these motors are good too (my opinion )

and yes, I thought you were talking about a G16 too

[Damo]

Scrawn wrote:

Trypt wrote:

Scrawn wrote:

Trypt wrote:

a recoed 1.6 will last longer than a d4d.

REALLY????? Based on what?

They are extremely under stressed over engineered motor. Simple mechanical injection with nowhere near the CR or Fuel pressure of modern common rail diesels. Good friend of mine has an old golf with a motor that has seen three cars. Over 800000 K's half of which on fish n chip oil.

So based purely on opinion, that's cool. I was looking after a 08 Hiace van with the 3.0 D4D motor that was approaching 450,000kms. It still had the original injectors and pump in it, driven hard day and night, extended service intervals (15-20,000) and it used no oil and blew little to no smoke. I think these motors are good too (my opinion )

and yes, I thought you were talking about a G16 too

Availability of the engine, and its parts would be much higher compared to vw stuff too.

[got_bar_work]

Y does every one say diesels are better in water
Ive seen plenty of zooks with no snorkel drive around with water over the hood
If u do get water in it u usually just need to pull the the plugs and crank it a few times to spit out any water and leave it for a while to dry
Get water in a diesel and ur looking at 5- 15000 for a new motor

[Damo]

got_bar_work wrote:

Y does every one say diesels are better in water

Because diesels don't have an electrical ignition system.

[pezz]

camshaft wrote:

it was just and idea iv alwaysed loved the smallness of suzis but wanted the fuel econ and well lets face it diesels r better with water...
but yah i thought the d4d would b to big but i never though of the vw motor

so you want it purely for economy and drivability under water?

late model petrol engines are very frugal and with coils integrated to the plug stem they are great at avoiding water

but the key to economy is how you drive it

i have a 2006 swift and it returns 6ltr/100kms
i also have a d4d hiace, it returns 12ltrs/100kms yes the hiace is fully laden to 3300kgs all day every day, but even when it were empty the best it got was 11ltrs/100kms

so i guess my point is, if you are going to stuff your sierra full of gold bullion you best get cracking on that d4d conversion,
but if not, rethink engine options and learn how to drive you rig to get the economy you desire

[got_bar_work]

A zook would float away before the coil gets wet
New diesels have just as much electrical shit to go wrong anyway

[camshaft]

not really bro