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sjzook

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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:02 am Posts: 358 Location: Candyland
Vehicle: Jimny 99 2" lift, 31s etc
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:34 pm |
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I have seen a few on here but cannot find any now! I want to install recovery points on the front and back of my sierra and need some photos to help if possible! Thnx
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:44 pm |
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What's wrong with the ones there now?
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sjzook

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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:02 am Posts: 358 Location: Candyland
Vehicle: Jimny 99 2" lift, 31s etc
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:12 pm |
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Are they strong enough for pulling out cars or being pulled out etc?
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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Id say if they are put on there from stock then they kinda have to be from some point of view? 
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hooki

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Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1785 Location: perth, WA
Vehicle: 85' LWB Sierra, 01' S15
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sjzook wrote: Are they strong enough for pulling out cars or being pulled out etc? don't use the factory rear tow point that's bolted on with the two bolts. I've seen a couple of them break off and it's bloody dangerous when they do. Those recovery hooks which I think you can buy from supershit mounted correctly to the chassis or strong front/rear bar can do the job. When it comes to recovering other vehicles with a sierra my rule is usually nothing bigger than a suzuki if they are really stuck. Trying to pull out a heavy pos like a patrol will usually be unsuccessful and cause damage.
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
Vehicle: 1.3 Tin Top
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 Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:29 pm |
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And you will head but the dash and or steering wheel if u try to snatch something like a patrol... its not nice
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Dr_Snapid
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:57 am Posts: 649 Location: Grafton
Vehicle: 2003 Jimny Auto
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Trypt wrote: And you will head but the dash and or steering wheel if u try to snatch something like a patrol... its not nice Been there done that It hurts. Car OK but more lucky than smart.
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
Vehicle: 1.3 Tin Top
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 Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:04 pm |
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Is there anything wrong with chucking a chain around the tow bar
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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Trypt wrote: Is there anything wrong with chucking a chain around the tow bar Are you for real?
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
Vehicle: 1.3 Tin Top
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 Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:16 pm |
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i mean the actual bar not the ball... if u can get those rated hitch tongues with a shackle on them? doesnt that mean the tow bar is strong enough. IDK thats why im asking
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
Vehicle: 1.3 Tin Top
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i mean the actual bar not the ball... if u can get those rated hitch tongues with a shackle on them? doesnt that mean the tow bar is strong enough. IDK thats why im asking
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
Vehicle: '94 suzuki maruti
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Jazzor

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Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:42 pm Posts: 502 Location: Kingston, Tas
Vehicle: 85 Suzuki Sierra
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Here are my front ones:  I had to grind a bit of notch out of the top of the hooks so they are up high enough for bolt holes to go through the chassis. The only improvements would be reinforcing the inside with bits of pipe around the bolts, mine have been on there for years like that no problems though. On the rear I did have some hooks bolted to where the stock rear bar bolts onto, but snatching people bent them upwards and warped the metal they were attached too overtime, as there was not a lot up upwards reinforcement. Now I have a rear bar bolted to the chassis each side with a hayman reese socket as per the pic above and its great  . 
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Sierra tow bar is only rated at 400kg so unless u r snatching a quad not a good idea to pull off that
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
Vehicle: 1.3 Tin Top
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 oh... i will no longer be using tow bar
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jim_dover

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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 286 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: '84 LWB 1LTR
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I just made this up for my LWB on the weekend 50mm pipe attached to the chassis with 5mm plate. All up with led tail light set me back $120  
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alanbie
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:46 am Posts: 45 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:04 pm |
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Recovery points
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
Vehicle: '94 suzuki maruti
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 Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:11 pm |
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as long as your not using the towball... like this bloke (i think from queensland), assuming his 2.5T towbar was up to the recovery 
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Jazzor

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Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:42 pm Posts: 502 Location: Kingston, Tas
Vehicle: 85 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:48 pm |
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alanbie wrote: Recovery points Groovy!, did you make them up or can you buy them somewhere?
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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I dont get how a towball thats that thick can snap off yet a recovery point held by two m10s is fine.. Is it because of the leverage put on it? Ill post a pic this arvo of how i use my towball for recoveries lol
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Tyron
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:12 am Posts: 366
Vehicle: ***
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Towball is for "TOWING" it's not called a snatch ball. Same reason they have "Tow" ropes and "snatch straps" But then again I've towed a patrol out with my towball so I'm probably not the best person to be telling do's and dont's
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alanbie
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:46 am Posts: 45 Location: Perth
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Jazzor wrote: alanbie wrote: Recovery points Groovy!, did you make them up or can you buy them somewhere? I got them laser cut out of 10 or 12PL mild steel, can't remember which, just painted them red after that. The rear bolts on where the original point is and the front slides in between the chassis rail. I've snatced a few lighter vehicles with the rears and have only been towed with the front, the weak point is always going to be the sierra chassis itself which will fail long before a recovery point or a M10 bolt will.
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Tyron
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:12 am Posts: 366
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What's the rules in other states? In Western Australia, You're not suppose to have anything protuding out from the vehicle that can cause damage. ie fishing rod holders must be inside the bullbar. wondering if it would be the same with recover points?
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haurp00ned
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:12 pm Posts: 161 Location: coolum beach
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is a standard recovery point on the rear on a 92 sierra soft top? i cant seem to see one?
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Jazzor

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Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:42 pm Posts: 502 Location: Kingston, Tas
Vehicle: 85 Suzuki Sierra
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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whincup wrote: as long as your not using the towball... like this bloke (i think from queensland), assuming his 2.5T towbar was up to the recovery  funnyest thing for the day rotflmao
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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wouldn't be funny when it's embedded into your scull, to who ever said they use their towball for recoveries...
go kick yourself in the dick, repeatedly.
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tombutt
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1917 Location: brisbane
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me and my mates had a close call the other week with dodgy recovery points cant say how important it is to attach this stuff properly my mate did a light snatch for a guy we found stuck with a car full of kids in the mud at glasshouse we tried doing the right thing and it almost cost my mate is back window and maybe more please bolt through the chassis not just into captive nuts into it they will just rip out
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
Vehicle: '94 suzuki maruti
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Tyron wrote: What's the rules in other states? In Western Australia, You're not suppose to have anything protuding out from the vehicle that can cause damage. ie fishing rod holders must be inside the bullbar. wondering if it would be the same with recover points? mate of mine got told unless he's using the fishing rod holders it has to be inside the bullbar... but if the rods are there, its ok. work that one out atari4x4 wrote: wouldn't be funny when it's embedded into your scull, to who ever said they use their towball for recoveries... go kick yourself in the dick, repeatedly. 
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superduki
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 466 Location: Tasmania
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whincup wrote: Tyron wrote: What's the rules in other states? In Western Australia, You're not suppose to have anything protuding out from the vehicle that can cause damage. ie fishing rod holders must be inside the bullbar. wondering if it would be the same with recover points? mate of mine got told unless he's using the fishing rod holders it has to be inside the bullbar... but if the rods are there, its ok. work that one out atari4x4 wrote: wouldn't be funny when it's embedded into your scull, to who ever said they use their towball for recoveries... go kick yourself in the dick, repeatedly.  I don't think their legal at all. But I could see how the rods in would help. The reason they don't like rod holders on the front of your bar is all for the stupid pedestrian. Imagine going over the bonnet and clipping 4 empty holes. Basically turns into a cheese grater..........
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