[appsie]

i guess my post about a fast lowmount wasnt good enough or needed??

id also like to know about the 10000 tigerz comp winch? i was very tempted to get one of them when building my zook

[zooky08]

it was helpful appsie.. ill more then likely go that route later on, dont have the money to go custom atm. but ill be more then happy to start of with a standard warn winch then upgrade later, if need be.

pretty sure tigerz11 dont make there own winches any more or sell thhere brand. last time i looked they had two other brands now.
maybe same winch but differnt name on it now.

[appsie]

lol sorry mate,was not at you. my computer shows my post as being deleted?? thought i must of pissed someone off somehow as its gone?:? sorry mate

yeah definately some money thrown at these winches. even my uncle and cousin who compete have a very basic setup and at the slow end of the field,but hi mount,bigger motor,24v,good solenoid,100mm wider drum with internal freespool from the UK still makes it expensive enough.
definately doing the right thing starting with a warn tho i think from what you have planned

[appsie]

i dont know what sort of money these flashed up low mounts are costing,but id be guessing a relatively simple hi mount would probably be better off in the $$ department

one advantage you will always have is a lighter weight rig for the walls

[Zook_Fan]

Dollar for dollar you will get a very similar high mount and low mount winch. After discussions with Russel I think that the prices are pretty much on par with the free spool kits, twin motors and gearing you see online for the hi mounts.

[dank]

got_bar_work wrote:

Dank was the tiger 11 comp.winch any good
On paper it looks the goods
How is it in the real world

from all reports it was a good winch. Big powerful motor with high gearing made for a fast line pull. Problem with these winches were that the outer housing cap on the motor was not sealed so heaps of motors filled with water and rusted out the electromagnetic brake mechanism which was a wicked design but hated water. Obviously...not a warranty item even though it was a known fault Tigerz11 / Paul Richards wouldn't cover them.

the motors were different to the regular low mounts like the 6000-12000 range standard winches that I sold quite a few to guys here. They were a good winch for the price. you get what you pay for though.

EDIT: I forgot to add that all we did was pull the break mechanism apart, clean up the rust on it and put it back together and seal it up and they worked fine again

[got_bar_work]

How do the breaks work on the m600
If u were to put a 6hp motor on it it would pull more but could it hold the weight
My mates all have big cars and i find myself winching them all the time
Hotted up m6000 on the front and my old 12000 on the back for pulling up patrolls
That way i dont need to turn round lol

[FullyZooked]

From my understanding of winches,gearsets and the electrical side of things here's a few key issues I see with removing planetary gears...

Depending on ratio of the gear removed it will directly affect line speed, brake capacity, pull capacity and more importantly electrical load on both the motor and the system supplying power.

If the line speed has increased 3x as per the video I would say the pull capacity would be 3x lower than rated, the brake would be 3x less affective but the scary bit is 3x more load on the motor and electrical system.

Normal cheap 9500lb $500 winch these days pulling your zook up a decent hill will draw in excess of 300 amps with a line speed of 3.5m per minute.

Now we've dropped some gears out on the same hill and were pulling in excess of 800amps and I'm sure line speed will go out the window as the motor slowly starts to overheat as well as your battery going to god and your stuck on the hill with your car on fire.



I know my current setup would not be happy with 800amps continuous. I can smell burning electrics already!

The Better way to go about increasing line speed would be to have the motor rewound. This way you still have all reduction gears available, you could have the motor rewound for higher speed and while this will result in higher amp draw it will be nothing notable as the previous fellas idea.

Correct me if my theory is wrong though.

[got_bar_work]

Connect danks 24v converter to a 12v winch
That woukd make it speed up

[Zook_Fan]

got_bar_work wrote:

Connect danks 24v converter to a 12v winch
That woukd make it speed up

Dank hasnt supplied much detail but has updated the post saying he is getting to it. When I looked into that option for suitable amps it was looking very expensive. It was cheaper for a 24v alternator and two extra optima batteries. I know that isnt an option for everyone but unless you are in a competition I don't see the need for a fast winch. But however you do it a 24v system will be faster and draw half the amps so you can double the motors on it

[zooky08]

Went and prices a m6000 today. $1220, cheaper then any were I've looked.

[appsie]

i wish i hung onto my dads old warn 8000.it was a good winch and relatively quick too i thought.probably a good all rounder

[ajsr]

got_bar_work wrote:

Dank was the tiger 11 comp.winch any good
On paper it looks the goods
How is it in the real world

got a new 12000 two speed if anyone wants one, changed my plans. make an offer

[Trypt]

FullyZooked wrote:

From my understanding of winches,gearsets and the electrical side of things here's a few key issues I see with removing planetary gears...

Depending on ratio of the gear removed it will directly affect line speed, brake capacity, pull capacity and more importantly electrical load on both the motor and the system supplying power.

If the line speed has increased 3x as per the video I would say the pull capacity would be 3x lower than rated, the brake would be 3x less affective but the scary bit is 3x more load on the motor and electrical system.

Normal cheap 9500lb $500 winch these days pulling your zook up a decent hill will draw in excess of 300 amps with a line speed of 3.5m per minute.

Now we've dropped some gears out on the same hill and were pulling in excess of 800amps and I'm sure line speed will go out the window as the motor slowly starts to overheat as well as your battery going to god and your stuck on the hill with your car on fire.



I know my current setup would not be happy with 800amps continuous

The Better way to go about increasing line speed would be to have the motor rewound. This way you still have all reduction gears available, you could have the motor rewound for higher speed and while this will result in higher amp draw it will be nothing notable as the previous fellas idea.

Correct me if my theory is wrong though.

I didn't know this was possible. If so I would consider this route. Thanks for the insight