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joeblow

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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:18 pm

DarkHorse wrote:

Interesting... will be a very short shaft, and unis bolt to flanges both sides?

Tell us about operating angle range and strength compared to stock?

Will the axles bolt up to standard gear, or need the diff and whole shebang?

How much needs to change for portals?

Looking forward to seeing it happen anyhoo...

Yes, unis on both sides.

unis don't try to spread balls in an outward direction when loaded. Unis run perpendicular.

To use the axle you must use my stub axles.

Portals can be run with standard Vit gear at the front and my full float at the rear.

So far I have been able to model the chain and cogs. All I need to do now is model the Vit CV properly as well as bearing journals and a housing. So far it will give a total lift of 83mm and gear reduction of 1.23 to 1.

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atari4x4

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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:24 pm

PORTALS

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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:33 pm

wow nice

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DarkHorse

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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:21 pm

These would do wonders for my CV angles... I mean uni angles...

AND gearing Armsup

(I take it you can do matching sets for the rear end?)

Can't wait.

Joe

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:48 am

I'm excited

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Fatzook

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:54 am

DarkHorse wrote:

These would do wonders for my CV angles... I mean uni angles...

AND gearing Armsup

(I take it you can do matching sets for the rear end?)

Can't wait.

There goes your engine conversion budget

There is a mob in the Uk that makes bolt on portals for land rovers. Something like $8-10K for the set. :shocked:

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DarkHorse

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:15 pm

yeah...

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:36 pm

Would'nt each corner be worth more than your car?

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DarkHorse

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:48 pm

Depends how you value it...

Just cos I couldn't afford it doesn't mean I'm not excited by the prospect of it existing.

Fatzook

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:02 pm

DarkHorse wrote:

:thefinger: Depends how you value it...

Just cos I couldn't afford it doesn't mean I'm not excited by the prospect of it existing.

Agreed. Looks like a cool project. Subscribed.

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got_bar_work

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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:30 pm

What will this add to the with
What rims will be needed to clear the portal
How is the front going to work
Will the strut hold it

DarkHorse

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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:50 pm

Good question - have been wondering where in this mess they'd fit:

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:38 pm

Love your work Mate.
Just picked up a sv420 and will be dropping the motor into my Lj40T. It's great to see yours and the way that it's fitted up.
Although mines being built for Crawling with 60series diff's on 3 & 4 link suspension.

joeblow

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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:13 pm

They take the place of your spindle, so there is no need to worry about the strut.

I still have to model up the brakes and hub but here are some more images.

Lift is 80mm, track increase is 90mm per side. I'm currently trying to find a shorter CV and its looking good.

It has been modelled to represent milling from solid block and not cast.

Price to be between 1000 to 1250 each corner.

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Fatzook

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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:18 pm

You reckon there is much market for this Joe?

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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:50 pm

If you want a market were you could sell thousands of them make the for the rear of VW and make lift spindles for the front. Cause the country buggy VW had them and sets sell for thousands cause they are so rare

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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:52 pm

OOPS forgot to add

WE LUV YOU JOEBLOW!!!!!!

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joeblow

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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:38 pm

But then I have to deal with VW type people.........

Well....I'm getting calls for full float Vit rears and discs, and I'm getting calls for improvements to the front etc. This sort of fixes a lot of 'wants'.

I pretty much have 2 sets commited if the prototype can handle a 2.5 V6, so anymore after that is a bonus.

And I found a shorter bolt in CV for the top input :wink:

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Joshyboy26

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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:48 pm

I reckon there could be a big market if you bust into the states, those guys love portals. thats if you wanna deal with that kinda thing though.

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kenn

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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:57 pm

Fatzook wrote:

You reckon there is much market for this Joe?

I think some times you just have to make stuff because you can..

Fatzook

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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:40 pm

kenn wrote:

Fatzook wrote:

You reckon there is much market for this Joe?

I think some times you just have to make stuff because you can..

Yep. Been guilty of this myself :lol:

And I can't wait to see how these bad boys turn out! Armsup

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larry

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:57 pm

so much awesome! :O

got_bar_work

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:46 am

Would itbe possible to do a dual arm and center diff in aus
Tring to get it low enough would be the problem
Something like this
http://www.zukiworld.com/month_050106/f ... ontend.htm

DarkHorse

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:47 am

Linky no worky...

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:56 am

Work yesterday but now ut seems there site might be down as i cant even go to home page

Aferal

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:09 pm

Would it be possible to have different size cogs for the portals, chain tensioning and case clearance could be an issue. Would make the things a lot versatile though to have a selection of ratio's.

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GRPABT1

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:43 pm

Amazing stuff and great pricing. Vitara's won't be hair dressers cars much longer.

christover1

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:59 pm

GRPABT1 wrote:

Vitara's won't be hair dressers cars much longer.

Mine will be, Armsup

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joeblow

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:16 pm

There will not be any fancy arms. The decision to go with this setup has not been a quick one. It has been discussed with the relevant parties many times.

The primary aim is for this to be bolt on.
The aim is that you can buy a standard vehicle, chuck these in, throw in some lockers and put your larger tyres on (no aftermarket suspension, no body lifts). It should be a weopon.
Gear reduction will be 1.3 to 1. Any extra 'low' can be obtained via t/case gears. Those with autos will be able to get away without t/case gears.

I am having a meeting this weekend with the interseted parties. Some design changes so far have been the switch to 'silent chain', which is the same stuff used in transfer cases.

I will post more as the design progresses.

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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:49 am

Where do i sign up?

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