[Trypt]

MMA is abit of a dying art. its what i learnt and i find it extrememly diffcult to mig. besides its cheaper, more portable and you get better penetration if you know what ur doing. im not pro but im ok.

[fully sick coily]

^^^^i agree

[Trypt]

probably a dying thread but heres some of my work.

(DC arc, 2.5gp rod, 3mm plate onto 2mm plate)

[SierraDan]

Good stuff. I could get arc to weld shit together but fuck it was ugly haha.

[Trypt]

The only way I can get that pool shape is to do a vertical down, otherwise its cursive e pattern and that's not as pretty
But thanks

[Fatzook]

Trypt wrote:

MMA is abit of a dying art. its what i learnt and i find it extrememly diffcult to mig. besides its cheaper, more portable and you get better penetration if you know what ur doing. im not pro but im ok.

fully sick coily wrote:

^^^^i agree

Aren't you like 6 years old?

I only use MMA when I have a use for 7018 or 7024's. Thats not very often.

[Ratty562]

I'm a lot better with an arc welder then a mig haven't done much on then yet

Arc is not dying all the welders on my site use sticks. As migs are no good out side

[monley]

MMAW

[31zook]

I use 3XP, or stick at work. Ferocraft 61's for welding on bosses, 13S's for vertical downs, and TC16's for vertical ups and down hand welds.

We burn through a boily here a month due to inabilities on the ol MMAW....

[supa_slim]

all ive been using the last 6months on site is a stick welder

getting pretty good at it

[jonno_racing]

stick is a art..
any one can do a "ok" looking MIG weld, few can do a awsome one like Pete's above.
but stick is a whole other ball game. I learnt on arc and do 99% of my work with mine. it takes skill to make a good looking strong weld with a arc.

[nandor85]

stainless arc on 1.2mm metal, first time using arc on stainless.
supprisingly it really easy 2 stainless arc thought it would be harder than normal arc
i will admit this weld is a little cool didnt 2 much penno and i should have moved abit quicker with it just 2 make less build up of weld

[Trypt]

nandor85 wrote:

stainless arc on 1.2mm metal, first time using arc on stainless.
supprisingly it really easy 2 stainless arc thought it would be harder than normal arc
i will admit this weld is a little cool didnt 2 much penno and i should have moved abit quicker with it just 2 make less build up of weld

Have tried ally arc?

[nandor85]

not yet but think i might looks like fun

[31zook]

jonno_racing wrote:

stick is a art..
any one can do a "ok" looking MIG weld, few can do a awsome one like Pete's above.
but stick is a whole other ball game. I learnt on arc and do 99% of my work with mine. it takes skill to make a good looking strong weld with a arc.

The MIG pressure ticket is known to be the hardest to do. It's easy to look smooth, and have a full looking weld, but peno and heat in it are distant for most novices.

[Fatzook]

31zook wrote:

jonno_racing wrote:

stick is a art..
any one can do a "ok" looking MIG weld, few can do a awsome one like Pete's above.
but stick is a whole other ball game. I learnt on arc and do 99% of my work with mine. it takes skill to make a good looking strong weld with a arc.

The MIG pressure ticket is known to be the hardest to do. It's easy to look smooth, and have a full looking weld, but peno and heat in it are distant for most novices.

Agreed. I've never done a structural weld in previous jobs that looked like the one I posted above. Time spent making things look fancy is time wasted, and often not appreciated by employers. All they want is the fastest way to the desired result...... in most cases, thats a solid weld with a consistant appearance, as denoted by the drawings. Show ponies get ribbed pretty hard, or atleast they have at my previous places of work.

[31zook]

Spot on pete.

Where I work show and final finish are everything. I'm slightly OCD, which helps my clean welds, but I have to be super diligent in making sure the (non welders) illusion is there. Walk up, weld, walk away. In reality, set up, clean off paint and clear work area, set up fire blankets, tack, check, brace, weld opposite side, grind out tack, weld first side, blend the stop starts, clean off spatter, wire brush down, pack upagain.

Lucky boilermakers are dumb huh

[Fatzook]

31zook wrote:

Spot on pete.

Where I work show and final finish are everything. I'm slightly OCD, which helps my clean welds, but I have to be super diligent in making sure the (non welders) illusion is there. Walk up, weld, walk away. In reality, set up, clean off paint and clear work area, set up fire blankets, tack, check, brace, weld opposite side, grind out tack, weld first side, blend the stop starts, clean off spatter, wire brush down, pack upagain.

Lucky boilermakers are dumb huh

Thats why you get the big bucks

I worked at a place where they had hard plumbed gas supply for the mig stations, with a 9 bottle cage that was swapped out all in one hit ( crane truck). When the bottles were getting low, the pressure in the system would drop due to the length of the lines from bottles to MIG's, and you would have endless grinding of tails/ stop-starts. It was fucked.

I always hated straightening jobs after some shmuck had welded them off with no regard for distortion. How hard is it to pre-camber a beam? Hours work, which saves 2 days work in repairs.

Also spatter is my pet hate. I always kept a couple sharp cold chisels and a pnuematic needle gun in my tool box.

[31zook]

Porosity and fixing other people's laziness are the two biggies when it comes to me changing moods all of the suddon

[86slowsierra]

31zook wrote:

Spot on pete.

Where I work show and final finish are everything. I'm slightly OCD,

i dont have O.C.D. welding frames at work.
i have C.D.O, because thats the correct alphabetical order.

[Rookie_zookie]

 
What are the Boc mig 190c like are they good for thin or thick work

[86slowsierra]

ive got the next model up from that and i love it.
i can glue 10mm plate and sierra panels.

but it is slightly too big and heavy, imho, for my little diy shed.

[Rookie_zookie]

Yeah it is a heavy one

[zooky08]

[Shansh]

^^^^ purty

[94BAZOOKA]

[douglasgiersch]

Not nearly as good looking as many of the above glueing efforts but i thinks its alright for a young bloke thats only owned a welder for 2 year
Was 2mm oval rail with 2.5mm rods on about 60-70 with elcheapo supercrap auto Arc.

[Trypt]

Keep at it^^^ practice makes perfect. Arc is versatile and cheap and once u get some practice can produce some very pretty welds.
Just one tip, try to keep one fluid motion, the edges of the weld should almost be a straight line. You will know uve got it bang on when the slag peels away on its own as it cools

[Dr_Snapid]

If anyone of you guys can help, I am looking for brazing advice here http://auszookers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=33838

[suzooky87]

This thread is awesome I am going for a job in Muswellbrook tomorrow, have to pass a weld test (8-10mm M/S vertical up and over head using Flux core & gas) and i will get the job. Uber nervious! never done that sort of test before but i am going to give it a go anyway..................