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matfan

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Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm Posts: 935 Location: Paraguay
Vehicle: WT Tinny, NT lwb, 1L lwb
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 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:33 am |
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JrZook wrote: Mine only hangs ~2.5". What's your hang?
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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I rainbowed a set of stock springs with a leaf taken out. But that was hitting what I thought was a modest mud puddle that dropped about 37 inches in a drop off. Apart from that the stock springs are so comfy with a bit of air in the Monroe adjustable air shocks I might build something like alien has got. I think that should be perfect as I don't really ever run out of clearance with what I drive.
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
Vehicle: SJ50 hardtop!
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 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:48 am |
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At the end of the day, is something like what 31zook has done going to be better then running NO trac bar in a SPOA?
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:33 am |
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Bucket wrote: At the end of the day, is something like what 31zook has done going to be better then running NO trac bar in a SPOA?
No because know there is a fixed constraint imparting forces (indirectly) that previously weren't there. The diff housing in standard rotated about itself now it has something to lever off.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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just_cruizin wrote: Bucket wrote: At the end of the day, is something like what 31zook has done going to be better then running NO trac bar in a SPOA? No because know there is a fixed constraint imparting forces (indirectly) that previously weren't there. The diff housing in standard rotated about itself now it has something to lever off.
I beg to differ, what gwagonsteve said is right, my lwb now tends to squat a bit on take off (evenly, not one side more then the other) if you think about my leafs on either side as links, my car runs a 3link panhard (without panhard, as my leafs are hooked up to the other side of he chassis).
So my question is, how can the axle housing rotate/twist without one of the lowers shortening or the top link extending? Movement in the housing can only be attributed vertical movement in the housing due to a poorly designed track bar.
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: I drive your mum
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 Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:01 am |
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As the leaves bend, they effectivley shorten. The problem with single link trac bars like has already been said is that they rely on the front half of the leaf spring for triangulation. This introduces the forces in a different way than normal, but still in an undesirable way.
Layto....
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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You are tryings to eliminate forces through the spring not use it as a link
_________________ greenzook89 wrote: 31zook wrote: Makes me want something similar
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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How much bracing is needed when welding it onto the diff housing? Mines currently a bolt on one but needs to be relocated to clear my new hand brake.
_________________ 1996 sierra + 2" body lift + SPOA conversion + ome
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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 Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:45 pm |
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LAY80N wrote: As the leaves bend, they effectivley shorten. The problem with single link trac bars like has already been said is that they rely on the front half of the leaf spring for triangulation. This introduces the forces in a different way than normal, but still in an undesirable way.
Layto.... just_cruizin wrote: You are tryings to eliminate forces through the spring not use it as a link I understand its not the best set-up out there. But it does work. mcwilly wrote: How much bracing is needed when welding it onto the diff housing? Mines currently a bolt on one but needs to be relocated to clear my new hand brake.
post a picture, you may need to completely re-make all the mounts on the axle housing.....
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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Mmm that will suck
_________________ 1996 sierra + 2" body lift + SPOA conversion + ome
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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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Good link Chris. Explains what we have been saying. 4 links with leaves is pointless, will bind up and you might as well go coils and get decent travel
_________________ greenzook89 wrote: 31zook wrote: Makes me want something similar
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