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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:31 am 
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Hey, replacing the break shoes whilst I am replacing the wheel nearings too..

Anyways The new shoes look identical to the old ones that came out... Fit in good, everything seemed to line up fine.. When it came to putting the drum back on, it wont fit over the break shoes? Ive tried compressing them as much as possible.. Still wont fit...
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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:35 am 
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Are the shoes centred??

Looks like rhe right one is sitting lower then the left on.. And also is your handbrake adjuster backed off?

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:39 am 
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center the shoes

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:40 am 
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I have wiggled them around as much as possible.. nothing seems to work :(
Really annoying, Ive had so much bad luck with little simple shit like this

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:00 am 
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Do you have the right shoes? There's two different size shoes, you may have the big ones. That's ok, I have the smaller ones here :helloo:

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:04 am 
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Thye are the same as the ones that came out, except that the new ones have more meat on them... I will try centre them again tomorrow

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:04 am 
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undo bleed nipple and compress shoes,
dont look like they are in far enuff to me

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:04 am 
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I once forgot to take hand brake off, that stuffed me fer a while :)

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:05 am 
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christover1 wrote:
undo bleed nipple and compress shoes,
dont look like they are in far enuff to me


I had both the metal break line sunscrewed from the wheel cylinder when doing it,

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:06 am 
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I once forgot to take hand brake off, that stuffed me fer a while :)

I checked that about 5 times lol

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:07 am 
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Thye are the same as the ones that came out, except that the new ones have more meat on them... I will try centre them again tomorrow


Don't be fooled by looks. Put the old shoe against it and compare. They are identical in every way bar outer diameter

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:07 am 
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brake drums sometimes get a lip on them,
making it very hard to get them over new brakes.

What are your drums like?

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:10 am 
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Getting pissed off with rear drum brakes over the years,
made it very good value for me to convert to rear discs.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:14 am 
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have you adjusted your brake adjuster back to the start

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:24 am 
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have you adjusted your brake adjuster back to the start


Is that what I ahve taken photos of? Photo 2&3 ... Its the only thing that is adjustable

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:28 am 
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dogbox wrote:
have you adjusted your brake adjuster back to the start


Is that what I ahve taken photos of? Photo 2&3 ... Its the only thing that is adjustable


Yes, it's right back in the first two pics but fully extended in the 3rd

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:28 am 
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the rear shoe looks like its being opened by the handbrake lever, pull the handbrake cables off, center the shoes and shove, especially if there is a lip on the drums

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:44 am 
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did you want me to drop in tomorrow and have a look?

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:01 am 
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dogbox wrote:
have you adjusted your brake adjuster back to the start


Is that what I ahve taken photos of? Photo 2&3 ... Its the only thing that is adjustable


Yes, it's right back in the first two pics but fully extended in the 3rd


Yeah that photo is out of order, it is currently like the 2nd photo shows..

Royce, I have tried with it unhooked and hooked,

Jimbo, I will have ago tomorrow morning again.. Ill message you if im still stuck..

So can I be rough with the drum and shove it over? Im worried its gunna damage the surface of the shoes...

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:51 am 
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Last picture. The bit with the splines on it. Adjust that all the way in to get the drum on.
It will adjust back after a drive around the block.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:55 am 
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in those pics your right shoe is sitting to low. just tap it up

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:58 am 
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Last picture. The bit with the splines on it. Adjust that all the way in to get the drum on.
It will adjust back after a drive around the block.


Yeah you can see I have in the 2nd photo... sorry photos are mixed up..

I will try that tomorrow Brett

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:07 am 
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I had the same issues before, try adjusting the well, brake adjuster, make sure it's on it's first teeth, then push the slave cyliner in on both sides at the same time.

It's just fiddly. I've gotta head out to bunnings in the morning so I'll swing past to see how your getting on with it.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:10 am 
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I had the same issues before, try adjusting the well, brake adjuster, make sure it's on it's first teeth, then push the slave cyliner in on both sides at the same time.

It's just fiddly. I've gotta head out to bunnings in the morning so I'll swing past to see how your getting on with it.


Okay sweet as! Hopefully all together at that time!
Wait till you hear the dramas I had haha

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:10 am 
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The RIGHT hand side brake shoe needs to be pushed up a bit. and probable the shoes have a lip on them that will need machining to slip over properly

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:25 am 
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The RIGHT hand side brake shoe needs to be pushed up a bit. and probable the shoes have a lip on them that will need machining to slip over properly


the shoes? do you mean the drum need machining?

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:31 am 
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Brake places used to make shoes with oversized linings,
and turn down the lining to match the drum,
after drum was machined.
I doubt very much that this still happens
in todays mass production methods?

But I think he means machine drums?

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:02 pm 
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Oops yes I meant drums ,,,,,,,,,, sounds like exactly the same situation I was in a few weeks ago.......

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:32 pm 
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Your missing a wheel bearing retaining bolt to.... :helloo:

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:24 pm 
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Your missing a wheel bearing retaining bolt to.... :helloo:

Haha I am aware of that and it was put back in :P


UPDATE!

Got the drums in, yous were right about them being off centred.. Mut of been to much of in a rush...

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