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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:47 am |
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Ok
I have found a set of Bundera Diffs but they come with 4.88 Gears Right?
I have 6.5:1 in my transfer
I want to run prob 35-36" Tyres
I still have stock 3.7 Suzy diffs atm and with the 33'(32) they are in the perfect rev range etc.
I dont want Suzy to be revving super high on the freeway!
Would it be better to go a lux lower ratio?
I know a Lux centre wont fit in a Bundy housing because of the steer arm on the rear. So i may go Lux front whole diff instead of bundy.
So Many Questions i know.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:53 am |
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Just found out. Bundy ratios:
84-85 2.4TD(2LT) LJ70 4.88
85-92 2.4TD(2LT) LJ70 4.88
84-85 2.4P (22R) RJ70 4.3
85-92 2.4P (22R) RJ70 4.55
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:31 am |
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Well i will be dreaming of my Suzy getting bigger on Bundy/Lux' wit 36's airlocked!
Spoa.
Removing 2"Bodylift
Cutting will be involved
New perches
New steering
New Shocks and mounts
Once im excited i don't sleep... 
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:03 am |
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Wanna make sure your new Psteering is up to the 36 tyres then...
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zookernator
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 813 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:14 am |
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i'm running bundy/lux diffs, 4.88... and 6:5 - 1 reduction transfer gears, with 35"s (approx 34" really).. and the gearing is spot on!!!!
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:20 pm |
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What kind of revs does it sit on 100?
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:46 pm |
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BlueSuzy wrote: New perches
You're putting Bundy diffs under it and keeping the leaves?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:51 pm |
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Damo wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: New perches
You're putting Bundy diffs under it and keeping the leaves?
There is alot of work with the engineering of coils if i have the flex in leafs i think i may just keep them...

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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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BlueSuzy wrote: Damo wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: New perches
You're putting Bundy diffs under it and keeping the leaves? Why bother with the engineering of coils if i have the flex in leafs?
Better control of the housing under torque, especially in the rear. Leaves can be made to work though, don't think I was poo-pooing the idea, just asking.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:59 pm |
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oh ok
Well i dont really think im up to working out all the coil specs etc!
I'm worried that i will fook it up!
I wont be using all the bundys arms etc(if went coil), as i have seen that they dont flex...
I was only thinking of a bundy rear now, with a lux front. Depends on priceing of both i guess and how the steering works on the Bundys.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:15 pm |
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BlueSuzy wrote: oh ok Well i dont really think im up to working out all the coil specs etc! I'm worried that i will fook it up!
Yeah that's fair enough. There is a fair bit more fab work to do as well, even more so if, as you say, you don't use the stock control arms.
Have you got a torque rod or something like that on your rear diff at the moment?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:22 pm |
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Not atm but if its going spoa i think im going to have to!!!
I really need it now 
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:34 pm |
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BlueSuzy wrote: Not atm but if its going spoa i think im going to have to!!! I really need it now 
I'm thinking you will definitly need it if you go SPOA, and i'm not suprised you need something now too. The softer your springs are the more likely they will be to wrap up under torque.
Do you really need to SPOA it? That will involve as much fab and engineering to do it properly. If you're thinking of SPOA then you might as well just go with coils, at least in the rear anyway. Then you can use a Hilux diff in the front as it's SPOA already, use the stock spring perches and outboard your leaf springs to suit.
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zookernator
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 813 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:38 pm |
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Not sure what revs mate.. got no tacho!!! But like i said, i reckon its geared pretty much spot on now. I originally was running lux front and rear, but had to go with bundy rear due to vibrations (they were HUGE!!) Lux front works fine.. heaps easier to set up!! I got everything that was needed from low range off road. High steer, spring perchs, shock mounts, etc. Let me know if you want any pics of any of it.. i took heaps of pics!!!!!!!!
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:47 pm |
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The reason for spoa is to get over some huge steps without hitting the front shackles.
Otherwise id use the mq/k pootrol diffs out of my backyard
With Coils I dont know if i like the floaty boat feeling ay...
I like to do abit of long distance driving in Suzy..
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zookernator
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 813 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:44 pm |
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Theres plenty of benifits for going SOA.. Your transfer, steering, shackles all of that stuff comes up out of harms way!! What are you planning on doing with the shock absorber side of things??
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:47 pm |
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Very unsure yet. But your setup seems olright
Is yours engineered yet?
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zookernator
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 813 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:51 pm |
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haha, oh shit no!!! I wish!! Isnt an option here in Tassie.. its a thing of the past now  Although Jon's zook (tastoyuki) got one before the new law came in.. just figuiring out a way to steal it  (awaits reply..)
you can also get the bar from low range similar to my set up in the rear, so you can invert the shockys. Cheap as chips for what it is.. or you could just make one!!
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Pubic

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Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1303
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:57 pm |
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timmy's coming to the dark side..... but if you even think about finishing yours before i do mine i will blow your zook up!!!!
th hilux front is good for me because it sits out to the drivers side further and clears the auto box. come have a peak on the weekend.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:32 pm |
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Hmmm  I shall see what im up to dis w'end. R u on holidays or something Mr Joel Pubic?
I dont think she will be finished in a long time. 'future dreams'
They wont go in until airlocked, armoured and shaved with steering to bolt in and shocks to bolt and weld on.....Simple! 
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zookernator
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 813 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:16 pm |
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BlueSuzy wrote: and shaved
hmmm.. gotta love the shaved ones  haha
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TASSIETOYUKI

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Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 490 Location: Rosevears Tas
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:42 pm |
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Maybe we just need to make them look like twins. Mmm.. "shaved twins"
..opps sorry where am I again, Maybe we should make them look the same, then get a copy of plates etc, only have to pay one rego between us then too. Or maybe you will just have to give me LOTS of money  Shouldn't be to hard to make them look the same lets get the grinder out again 
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TASSIETOYUKI

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Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 490 Location: Rosevears Tas
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edit: double post, WTF? only did it once 
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Pubic

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Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1303
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:17 pm |
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it will look liek a smurf doing a head stand when im done..... my big red car driving over the top of suzy!
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Dee
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 222 Location: Sunshine Coast
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 Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:18 am |
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36's on standard wheelbase?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:26 am |
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Wtf 36's on standard wheelbase!!!
Fook me!
If you have checked my buildup already... You will see that my diff is 30mm forward, my rear is 15mm rearward.. With the 33's...
But with 36's.. It will be stretched more
I need a Lwbzook. But a swb will do..The 36's was going to be for something different other then 35's. But i may reduce it to Proper 35's..
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Dee
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 222 Location: Sunshine Coast
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 Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:48 am |
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BlueSuzy wrote: Wtf 36's on standard wheelbase!!! Fook me! If you have checked my buildup already... You will see that my diff is 30mm forward, my rear is 15mm rearward.. With the 33's...
2" over standard with 33's pretty much 'is' standard (jmo), as ya pretty much gotta move em to stop the scrubbing.
If i was going 35's i'd be shooting for about 90"wb. Hell i'd like a 38" wb just with the 33's! and i'd be going just as far foward with the front diff as i would be going backward with the rear (or as close as i could anyway) for better weight distribution/cog. Gets a bit hard with steering & covering the fronts though.
& with the diff swap thing, if i had to sort out steering, brake lines, bracketry, shock mounts etc etc to do it, i'd go that little bit extra while i was there & make the mounts take coils instead of leafs & do a simple (yet effective) a-frame & 3 link setup. just my opinion though...
You could acheive awesome travel & keep low at the same time. But the biggest advantage is the approach/departure angles, low as possible car with long arse flexy leaves = massive chassis extensions & still shit approach
all just my opinion though mate. i'm a big fan of the low/wide/long. (although i'd still keep it only 90"ish for fun, sinche they are a swb suzi after all  )
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:52 am |
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Im Now thinking of keeping Suzy how she is..
Low, Light and wide,
I can always go around things as there is mostly a side track on our tracks if necessary.
The Fact is. I have a swb suzy. She will be just too short and would be a rolly polly machine.
If i had a lwb then i would prob go bundys etc.
I dont like the look of mega stretched wheelbase on a swb.
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Pubic

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Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1303
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 Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:37 am |
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well in that case.... its time for another project.... lwb monster named loraine!
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