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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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needs more trianglulation...
the wings are going to need a heap more bracing, how does it attach to the chassis?
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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well atari. all of those things are yet to be worked out. this is basically what i want it to look like.
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:45 am |
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once all is worked out ill post more pics with actual measurements and bracing.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:52 am |
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Looks good!
But is it going on a jimny with airbags???
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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atari4x4 wrote: needs more trianglulation...  the wings are going to need a heap more bracing, how does it attach to the chassis?
hes gona use super glue and duck tape but looks good but 
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lordviper556
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 716 Location: sunny coast qld
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you forgot zip ties! hahaha
looks like it should be good, make sure u post up the finished design and build pics 
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:31 am |
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i will promise!!!! hahah yeah zip ties are the go. cheaper then fabing up a set of mounts
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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What about the airbags??
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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i have seen people come in to work and there bars are ratchet srapped to radiator support panel, and they wonder why it rattles on rough roads
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bryce
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 101 Location: brisbane
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airbags?
How does it affect wether the car had airbags? i have been to arb and tjm looking around for some bars and have asked about the airbags both guys said they arent in the front bumper..
Not to sure now... although if they are mine must be faulty, As the front of the little jimny found quite a large hole....
?????
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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bryce wrote: airbags? How does it affect wether the car had airbags? i have been to arb and tjm looking around for some bars and have asked about the airbags both guys said they arent in the front bumper.. Not to sure now... although if they are mine must be faulty, As the front of the little jimny found quite a large hole....
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I'm pretty sure a car with airbags, that has a bar on the front must be approved so they will still deployed in case of a crash.
Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Need ALOT more bracing. Do you have impact simulation or stress analysis software, or access to it? That will let you know what you need to do 
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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 Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:28 am |
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na i dont fat zook
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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zammit wrote: na i dont fat zook
Ok.
Do you have a reasonable understanding of physics? I ask this because you will need to understand how applying a force on a particular part of the structure will distribute load.
Given that its a bullbar, the most likely impact it will see is frontal. So you need to add bracing that will revent the "c" shaped structure from deforming.
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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hah, come on, who here uses "impact simulation or stress analysis software" ? 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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steve wrote: hah, come on, who here uses "impact simulation or stress analysis software" ? 
 You didn't on you buggy Steve??? 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Grave digging here
But how did you go with this bar? Have you made it yet?
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Moph

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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 93 Sierra
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I have stress analysis software ... but modeling the bar just sounded like too much hard work. Sheer bulk goes some what towards offsetting smart design

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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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needs more steel.
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SSSIERA
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:26 pm Posts: 1770 Location: Perth's RUF
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far out is that like 8mm plate..... people told me i was silly for using 4
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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alien wrote: needs more steel.
& longer upright's.... 
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zuk85
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 656 Location: Sunshine coast
Vehicle: 07 vvt jimny
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monkey wrote: bryce wrote: airbags? How does it affect wether the car had airbags? i have been to arb and tjm looking around for some bars and have asked about the airbags both guys said they arent in the front bumper.. Not to sure now... although if they are mine must be faulty, As the front of the little jimny found quite a large hole....
????? I'm pretty sure a car with airbags, that has a bar on the front must be approved so they will still deployed in case of a crash. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
you are correct or it renderd the vehicle un-roadworthy,
unsafe and will not meet adr.
but its a chance we can all take for a sick looking tough arse bar that does the jobs it suppose too 
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Moph

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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 93 Sierra
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steak_knife wrote: alien wrote: needs more steel. & longer upright's.... 
Steel jokes I understand - it's pretty darn solid. What's wrong with the uprights though

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