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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:19 pm |
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The rear bar was a bit rusty when I first bought my sierra  so I decided that I needed to get something decent there that could take a few more hits then the stock one  . I also wanted the lights in the back to be waterproof which the new LED’s are. Got them from work (BCF) for about $35 a light  (staff discount  ).
Before with Stock Back
Half Done
After shot of Completed Bar
Capped ends
Nice Led Angle
Flat Across the Back
I painted it black because the eventual plan for the vehicle is to go with a really bright yellow or orange with black stripes the bonnent with all black bar work. looks really neat on the back i think.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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That came out pretty nice. I like how you capped the ends, that's neat.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:44 pm |
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_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
Last edited by BlueSuzy on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:47 pm |
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Looks sweet as, The steampipe bends make it really easy to make a bar ay 
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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yeah we picked them up from a local steel shop for $5 a bend. I have a pipe bender but everytime we tried to get the pipe to bend it was too tight and the pipe would kink very badly. It would have cost us more for an engineering place to do the bends on their bender so it was much better this way
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Mike

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Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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so you didn't have to bend anything to make that bar?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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nope, just like mine Mike, The bends are neatly welded into the right spot, then the weld is grinded/ flapper wheeled down to smooth flush looking.
Also the bends have 45 deg. chamfers so the weld won't be lost after the grinding.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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if only i had a welder
you need to mig weld them right?
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:26 pm |
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nah no bends at all and just like BlueSuzy said it makes the welding so easy. A lot of places selling steel can sell you them just ask for however many mm elbows. When it was done we didnt want the grinds looking bad so we covered it with some really thick undercoat rust prooving stuff dad used on his patrol and now it is incredibly smooth the whole way around.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
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mig ,tig, stick, braise.
Some form of welding yes 
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:29 pm |
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we used mig but yeah they all work. also we used a pipe cutter on the rest of the steel which allows the tube to get the chamfers on it aswell so it was all chamfered. Came out looking very neat because of it
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:30 pm |
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did the same thing for the light bar
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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BlueSuzy wrote: mig ,tig, stick, braise. Some form of welding yes 
what about glue? 
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Zook_Fan

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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:32 pm |
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your probably pushing that the better way to go is borrow, if you use glue you will probably find it falling to pieces when you drop off something
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:40 pm |
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I think glue is pushing it alittle Mikey 
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:43 pm |
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i got some pretty strong glue though 
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:46 pm |
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it could be done yes definetly but i wouldnt recommend it for the sake of the safety of your car. cheap is good yes but welds are better. take it to someone once you have it all cut to size and they can stick it together
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andrewa
Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 278 Location: bundamba
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nice work on the rear bar.  how's departure angle compared to std rear bar 
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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exactly the same because of the towbar that is there. I want to keep it there for a while so it hits not my fuel tank
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:19 am |
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is it mounted to the same places as the original bumper?
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:40 am |
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nah i cut the old mounts of because they where made of tin and used like 1/4 inch angle and wedged it between the body and something else hard to explain ill put some pics up tomorow
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:42 am |
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so its mounted stronger than the original?
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:49 am |
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oh yeah a lot stronger. I am about 75kg and could jump up and down on this bar when it was put in
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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the standard bar is stronger than that
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:19 am |
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oh well the new one is built strong ill tell you that it weighs quite a bit and has 4 250mm long solid welds on each pipe to the mounting plates ill take some more pics and you will see
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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This is the mounting plate we used. The plate is bolted using high tensile bolts between the tow bar and the mounts on the body
Hope this helps
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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so it bolts upto where the tow bar bolts too?
does anyone know if thats strong enough to to recover off?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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I had a rear bar that attached to the towbar points with recovery points built in with some pretty savage recoveries and never had a problem
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:36 am |
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royce wrote: I had a rear bar that attached to the towbar points with recovery points built in with some pretty savage recoveries and never had a problem
looks like i need a bar like that then
would you have any pics of said bar by any chance? 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:39 am |
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I do as a matter of fact, I just cant find them 
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