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BigZook
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:45 am Posts: 4 Location: Perth
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Hello Zookers,
I like to start off with how awesome everyones rides are on this forum!!!
Now to the question I need answered I have a 1974 Suzuki Sierra with a F10A 1L engine, it only comes with 4 speed I was wondering if its possible to change the gearbox to a 5 speed?
If it is possible does it require alot of modifications?
Thanks guys
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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Just to clarify.
1974 would make it an LJ series suzuki, at that age probably an LJ50
either that or its a type O and you meant 1984?
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Im pretty sure it's possible, but mods do need to be done.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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tanshi wrote: Just to clarify.
1974 would make it an LJ series suzuki, at that age probably an LJ50
either that or its a type O and you meant 1984?
If its '74 it'd be an LJ20, with a 359cc, two stroke FB engine...
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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lj50s were released jan 74
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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AFAIK LJ50s were released in '76...
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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either way there are options for a 5 speed.
if its a sierra the late 1 litre sierra did come out with a 5 speed. also the maruti 5 speed will fit i believe.
if its is an LJ you can make a hybrid box using a carry 5 speed. there is a write up around here some where on it.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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Ben_Sierra wrote: AFAIK LJ50s were released in '76...
I am 99 percent sure i know guys with older ones than that. be makes little difference
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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Info i have foudn said the LJ50 was released in 74 when the KEI class rules in japan changed. Was released as the Jimny 550 & LJ50
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BigZook
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:45 am Posts: 4 Location: Perth
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Sorry guys I've provided the wrong information  going from the plate under the hood it's a:
1984 Suzuki Sierra SJ40V F10A Engine 970CC
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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1984 is the changeover between a Type 2 and Type 3 SJ40. If you have a full width plastic dashboard (T3), it is fairly straightforward to rebuild your box as a 5 speed using the internals from a 1.3lt Sierra.
If you have a metal dash with plastic just around the instruments (T2), then you will have to source a later 1.0lt box PLUS the 5 speed internals.
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BigZook
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:45 am Posts: 4 Location: Perth
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303zuke wrote: 1984 is the changeover between a Type 2 and Type 3 SJ40. If you have a full width plastic dashboard (T3), it is fairly straightforward to rebuild your box as a 5 speed using the internals from a 1.3lt Sierra.
If you have a metal dash with plastic just around the instruments (T2), then you will have to source a later 1.0lt box PLUS the 5 speed internals. 303zuke, i have the metal dash with the plastic covers on both ends of the dash. Do you know if it's going to bolt staight on or do I have to do some mods?
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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Oh no, you will have some mods.
Once you have sourced the later box and assembled the 5 speed internals in it (remeber to use the Input shaft from the late 4 speed to match the clutch), It will bolt directly onto the back of the engine. You will need to dick around with the rear gearbox support as they will be different between the early/late boxes, and you may need to gently panelbeat part of the Trans tunnel as the later box is wider and can foul the bodywork. You will also need a larger sliding yoke for the back of the gearbox, as the later box has a larger shaft/spline size.
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