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maloo11
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 am Posts: 232 Location: NSW
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Looking for pics/suggestions of how people have adapted the roctoy ring to strenghten transfer case/mounts.
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oozuk
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brendan
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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Always liked the roctoy but never understood how it works, my understanding, you weld it to your bracket, and it creates more fixings points for your tcase to fix to, thus spreading out the load of the case?
Amiright?
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maloo11
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 am Posts: 232 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:39 pm |
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yep basically thats it. But then the increased touque generated goes to the mounts. So if there not strong enough they will bend, causing the transfer case to twist. I assume this would destroy the output shaft.
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maloo11
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 am Posts: 232 Location: NSW
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Got my gears and roctoy ring. Will be doing something similar to Brendan ( above post) to transfer mounts. That seems strong enough for the driving il be doing. Nothing exteme.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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jimbo_jones

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jonno_racing

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maloo11
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 am Posts: 232 Location: NSW
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Do you need 6mm longer bolts when fitting the roctoy or do you still use the standard?
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jaczook

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Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 269 Location: sydney
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I had to use spacers on some bolts as the ring does not sit flush with the case, not a problem but you so need longer bolts on some holes?
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daisy
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 285 Location: Redbank Plains, QLD
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jaczook wrote: I had to use spacers on some bolts as the ring does not sit flush with the case, not a problem but you so need longer bolts on some holes?
Definitely need longer bolts for some of the holes.
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jonno_racing

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daisy wrote: jaczook wrote: I had to use spacers on some bolts as the ring does not sit flush with the case, not a problem but you so need longer bolts on some holes? Definitely need longer bolts for some of the holes.
yeah i went all out and replaced all the bolts with 8,8's very over kill, but every bolt has a flat and a spring washer 2.
i think i still have my bolt shoping list here somewhere.
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daisy
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 285 Location: Redbank Plains, QLD
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OH and I also used quite a LOT of washers to make up for the spacer gaps in between the flat surface of the ring and the uneven bolt heights on the case.
Ive seen a few cases where people have just tightened them up with no spacers.. 
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jonno_racing

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wow rly? i used washers 2... worked well.. tighting without washers would put epic pressuer on the case! silly people
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maloo11
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 am Posts: 232 Location: NSW
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Do you know the bolt sizes yous used. i got a mechanic mate doing mine, so il have to let him know before he puts it all back together and to space it where nessacary.
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Llewellyn92
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 7:28 am Posts: 263 Location: Moruya NSW
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can you run a rocktoy ring with out body lift ? because i think a read somwhere that it hits on the tunnle if you havent lifted the body. any advise on this? cheers fellas
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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mines pretty similar to jimbos with a few flats running back down to the arms for strength.
i used some of the longer bolts in place of the shorter ones when putting it back together using washer where packing was needed and the remaining ones i got 10mm longer bolts that whatever the longer ones allready were.Was over 2 years ago so dont remember length but they are M8
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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Llewellyn92 wrote: can you run a rocktoy ring with out body lift ? because i think a read somwhere that it hits on the tunnle if you havent lifted the body. any advise on this? cheers fellas
i run mine with no BL... clears by a few mm =)
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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Llewellyn92 wrote: can you run a rocktoy ring with out body lift ? because i think a read somwhere that it hits on the tunnle if you havent lifted the body. any advise on this? cheers fellas
If you look at jimbo's he's runnin a BL and a TL so that'd be simialr to standard clearence.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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alien wrote: Llewellyn92 wrote: can you run a rocktoy ring with out body lift ? because i think a read somwhere that it hits on the tunnle if you havent lifted the body. any advise on this? cheers fellas i run mine with no BL... clears by a few mm =)
intresting..
i have a 2inch bl
i tryed to lift the transfer 40mm it foud hard!
30mm transfer lift and it JUST clears.
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daisy
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 285 Location: Redbank Plains, QLD
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jonno_racing wrote: alien wrote: Llewellyn92 wrote: can you run a rocktoy ring with out body lift ? because i think a read somwhere that it hits on the tunnle if you havent lifted the body. any advise on this? cheers fellas i run mine with no BL... clears by a few mm =) intresting.. i have a 2inch bl i tryed to lift the transfer 40mm it foud hard! 30mm transfer lift and it JUST clears.
Agreed..
I run 50mm rubber blocks on mine.. and had to shave approx 20mm off the corners of the ring (had a lot of meat on them so taking that much off wasnt much of a problem.)
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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i have 2" bodylift. and lifted my case with some 65x35 rhs as 35s all i could go without the case hitting in a few spots SO.....one day ill notch some of the ring and go higher with the case
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
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I run 2" Bl with 2" transfer lift and roctoy with extra plate, Reinforced original arms to look stock, but double the thickness.
Shaved top of ring, and hammered/cleared floor tunnel for the sides.
Link to the page in the build http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... &start=150
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Moph

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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
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jonno_racing wrote: wow rly? i used washers 2... worked well.. tighting without washers would put epic pressuer on the case! silly people
Not at all. 6mm plate in its weak axis bends pretty easily. I used a couple of 2mm washers in one location to space the ring out (last hole on one end) but for the rest just gradually tightened up the bolts. The plate deforms plastically (ie doesn't try to spring back) and that's it - ring is formed to the correct profile. You can pull it off at that stage and it will hold it's shape ... I did for painting and welding.
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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Hey guys roctoy ring showed up today, I'm just wondering if 3mm plate will be strong enough to brace my tcase arms and fussed the ring to the arms, only going to use 3mm because I have some laying around
Josh
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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turbo_deo wrote: Hey guys roctoy ring showed up today, I'm just wondering if 3mm plate will be strong enough to brace my tcase arms and fussed the ring to the arms, only going to use 3mm because I have some laying around
Josh
If you do it right you should be fine.
Are you a good welder?
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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I'm not but I am only going to tack it all up how I want it and get a friend who is a trade welder to finish weld it
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Fatzook

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turbo_deo wrote: I'm not but I am only going to tack it all up how I want it and get a friend who is a trade welder to finish weld it
Well wenever using lighter gauge materials as a strengthening medium, 'boxing' or ' closing' sections adds to their rigidity.
Putting folds or bends in it also gives strength when done correctly.
And I suppose you don't have access to any dimple dies? 
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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Fatzook wrote: turbo_deo wrote: I'm not but I am only going to tack it all up how I want it and get a friend who is a trade welder to finish weld it Well wenever using lighter gauge materials as a strengthening medium, 'boxing' or ' closing' sections adds to their rigidity. Putting folds or bends in it also gives strength when done correctly. And I suppose you don't have access to any dimple dies? 
I wish dimple dies are so  I was thinking of use the 3mm to box the long arm and strengthen the short are and getting some 6 to gusset the ring back to the arm?
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