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SHOOTA
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:07 am Posts: 15 Location: SA
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hey guys need some advice. . . i am thinking of welding my front diff, but am unsure if it is the right thing to do? does it only fully lock when you engage the hubs or will it be like a rear diff when you welded ( locked all the time)
your advice would be appreciated
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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It will be locked all the time, but won't be engaged until you lock your hubs in.
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Joe

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It will be locked all the time but you will only notice it when you have your front hubs locked in
Edit:i type to slow 
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SHOOTA
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:07 am Posts: 15 Location: SA
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so it will be fine driving every day? also my suspension in my zook is like driving with coilovers..... stiff as .... will 2" drop shackles make a difference or improvement?
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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SHOOTA wrote: will 2" drop shackles make a difference or improvement?
yes they will make it heaps shitterer.........
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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SHOOTA wrote: so it will be fine driving every day? also my suspension in my zook is like driving with coilovers..... stiff as .... will 2" drop shackles make a difference or improvement?
You will be fine to drive every day.
Please explain your suspension setup. Are you looking for more flex offroad? Or better comfort on road? 
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SHOOTA
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:07 am Posts: 15 Location: SA
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 Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:45 am |
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ive got 2'' body lift and thinkin of doin drop shacles but not really sure.... i want more flex and a more comfortable ride off and on road.... its pretty redicialous at the moment. head almost hits the roof its that bad.... and it bounces more than it cushions the bumps
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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What pressure are you running in your tyres?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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You need longer springs. Drop shackles will not help on road, and as Joe so efficiently pointed out, they aren't much chop offroad either. I've seen them work well on bigger trucks like hiluxs', but for the money, they aren't worth it on a zook.
Search RUF in the tech threads. Great place to start.
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SHOOTA
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:07 am Posts: 15 Location: SA
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yeah im not sure of my tyre pressure.... will check that tommorow..... and its not a huge deal on road.... just more the fact off road its pretty uncomfortable and im a fitter and turner so will be making my drop shackles
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Sound like tyre pressure. Drop them to a max of 20psi.
I had a similar issue when I realised the previous owner was running over 30psi. I dropped them to 20 front and 18 rear, Made a huge differance.
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SHOOTA
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:07 am Posts: 15 Location: SA
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 Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:25 pm |
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even on the bitumen road drop them that low.... because its pretty uncomfortable driving everyday to work?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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I run mine at 20 on road all the time. Its heaps betterer 
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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I run my tyres at 20 on road, usually 10 off road.
If you have shitty old springs and shocks then you will have a rough ride. Any new spring and shock combo will be an improvement.
As for the flop shackles, why? They will make the flex uncontrollable and unpredictable, and make no improvements to your onroad manners whatsoever...
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SHOOTA
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:07 am Posts: 15 Location: SA
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lol how often you replace your tyres and i will be puttin 31'' sentipedes on mine too. so ill see how it goes. cheers for your help bud
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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How to weld a diff.........

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SHOOTA
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:07 am Posts: 15 Location: SA
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 Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:42 pm |
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and nah not thinkin flop shackles.... thinking 2'' drop shackles
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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SHOOTA wrote: and nah not thinkin flop shackles.... thinking 2'' drop shackles
Wait, so you don't want drop/ scissor/ flop shackles, you want extended shackles?
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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SHOOTA wrote: and nah not thinkin flop shackles.... thinking 2'' drop shackles

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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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SHOOTA wrote: lol how often you replace your tyres and i will be puttin 31'' sentipedes on mine too. so ill see how it goes. cheers for your help bud
A zook weighs F$ck all. Tyres will last forever.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
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Stock standard tyre pressures are only 20psi! Very unlike a lux/pootrol/car
Centipedes will be stiff. so you could probably even run 15 psi onroad 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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i run 19psi in my 31" ETs on road (winter) and 21 in summer (more grip in winter on cold wet roads).
offroad i'm only game to go down to 7 or 8psi without beadlocks, but i'd say i could get to 5 without dramas.
as for welding the front diff - understand that you WILL lose steering if you do this and are in 4wd with both hubs locked. (you'll understeer into, well, everything).
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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I might try dropping my type pressure a bit...
I usually run my claws at 28!
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BlueSuzy

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i run my 33's at 26-28. Any lower and my rear tyres grab the road something shocking. You can also feel the roll resistance when they are lower.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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You are welded though, might be different with an open centre...
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:00 am |
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i have a max of 14psi in my tyres and mostly have 6psi if i am not carting shit around
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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shep wrote: i have a max of 14psi in my tyres and mostly have 6psi if i am not carting shit around
Doesn't see a lot of bitumen though, does it 
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skelaaleks
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