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ninjadaniel
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 365 Location: Brisbane
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Hey gents, almost finished my project LWB (yes stekky, pics are on their way) but ive hit a problem with the brakes, they worked before, all i have done is installed Vitara calipers & extended brake lines but now i cant seem to get pedal pressure.
Ive bled brakes before on many cars but this one has me stumped. There are no leaks and i am using the following technique:
-Add some fluid to a bottle
-Attach hose to bleed nipple and place in bottle
-loosen bleed nipple and have a mate pump the brakes until all bubbles are gone
-keep topping up reservoir.
I did this from back to front a few times now and the pedal only gets hard after pumping it 5-6 times, then goes soft again.
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:56 pm |
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think you doing it wrong.
your supost to losen the bleed nipple, press the pedal slowly till it hits the floor. then tighen the nipple back up then take you foot of the pedal, keep doing this untill no bubbles come out.
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ninjadaniel
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 365 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:03 pm |
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ok thanks, will try that. I did a upgraded the brakes on my MR2 to 315mm lexus rotors and r33 calipers and used the same technique ive been using, worked fine :S
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ball

I live here!
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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 Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:13 pm |
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Make sure you don't loosen the bleed nipple too much or it will suck air back in through the threads.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:17 pm |
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i read somewhere that the vitara calipers need to be rotated or something to bleed them when fitted to a sierra...
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mnemonix

az supporter
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: '96 LWB trayback
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 Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:28 pm |
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Atari's point is a valid one. Is the bleed nipple mounted at the dead top of the caliper? If not, you'll always get an airpocket above the nipple.
My rear disk conversion locates the bleed nipple behind the diff at 90 degrees. This stops them from bleeding properly without removing and rotating the caliper to the top.
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:47 pm |
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yep, you need to rotate the calipers
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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 Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:58 pm |
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A trick I was shown a long time ago was if you loosen the nipple a few threads then have some one hold there finger over the hole firmly. then have a second person pump the brakes. It is a bit messy but it works. It pressurises the system enough to push the air through.
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ninjadaniel
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 365 Location: Brisbane
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how & why do i rotate the calipers? do they sit on different angle in sierra?
Cheers,
Daniel
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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this is what Royce wrote back in 2007...
http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... ers+sierra
royce wrote: new rotors arent much more than that so once you get them machined you may as well get new ones I reckon thats a good price for callipers too compared to prices I was quoted, dont know if you would really need the booster as to fitting, yes they fit, but vitaras normally have the caliper at about the 10 oclock position so once up the top like on a sierra you cant bleed them, the solution is to slide the caliper back and bleed it then bolt it into place the difference between the solid vitara (pretty much the same as sierra) and the vented wagon brakes is massive, make sure they are the vented ones of a 1.6 too, the ones meant for 16" wheels wont fit but you already know that 
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