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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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 Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:04 pm |
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G'day just wondering if you people would be happy with this pattern? it is in a Suzuki sierra rear diff with an arb air locker if it makes any difference. cheers Jack jr
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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No. Should be centred on the tooth.
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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 Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:51 pm |
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ok thanks do i need to shim the pinion towards the ring gear or away? cheers Jack jr
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:14 pm |
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Did you do a gear change or just the locker? If it’s just the locker there’s no need to touch the pinion.
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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 Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:09 pm |
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I had a locker fitted by arb last year I only pulled it apart to rebuild it as the pinion seal was leaking and there was a small amount of play in the pinion shaft. it has the original shim in it when i checked that pattern. how to i centre it more on the tooth? thanks for your help. cheers Jack jr.
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Brenno
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 988 Location: Hobart
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Have you got a solid pinion spacer Jack?
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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 Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:47 pm |
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no its a crush sleeve I have been using the old one to test the pattern.
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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 Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:04 pm |
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Does anyone know how to centre the pattern? it is the original gears and the original shim the back lash is set at 6 thou at the moment. Cheers Jack jr.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Sorry jack, my FSM isn’t with me now.
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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 Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:04 am |
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I have done some research and it seams that if the pattern is down on the toe on the drive and coast side, then I need to increase backlash. How much backlash can you run in a sierra diff? Cheers Jack jr.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:21 pm |
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G'day i tried to put the diff together tonight but i found that the new pinion spacer is shorter then the old one by about 0.1mm, I fitted it but the bearings went tight before the crush sleeve started crushing. why would this be where there different ones of is the a defect? i ordered the kit from 4wd products on ebay. Cheers Jack jr
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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If I put a shim under the crush sleeve to build up the Hight would that work? How tall is a crush sleeve when new my new one was if I remember correctly 55.4mm tall. Cheers Jack jr
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Sounds like your in way over your head Perhaps have a fiddle with a cheap center before you attempt the locker
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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G'day, you are probably right MrRocky but i spoke to a few people and get it as good as i could, I put it back in last night and it is not whirring it gets warm after a short drive but i would say that is fine? just have to see what happens over the next few km. Cheers Jack jr
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Jack jr
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am Posts: 198
Vehicle: Suzuki sierras
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after a short road run of 15-20km with a stop in the middle the diff centre would be guessing about 50C I put the upper limit of preload would you consider that ok? Cheers Jack jr
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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I normally ugguh duggah it until sits where it was on the thread previously or just a tad more. Setting the backlash correctly can be tricky, i normally try and match the front diff as generally its pretty fresh by comparison to the rear.
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