[Samwich]

So i have had quite a big look for the information on hear, and i can seem to get a good answer...

I currently have 29" tyres on my car with standard gears.
Currently when going up a hill, 2nd low hates it and i have to end up doing up in 1st...

These hills i can cruise up in 3rd low in my dads 100s landcrusier (which im used to)

I am looking at putting 31" tyres on my vit. And was wondering what are the best gears for this??
Its still going to be a daily driver at this point in time. But i need better gears for off road

any advise about what gears (6.5, 4.25?, anything) and or a website to buy these off will help hugely

Cheers,

Sam

[buzbox]

Just put it in 1st gear. If you were to put in reduction gears just for that purpose, you'd probably do the same hill in 4th gear.

I'd only put reduction gears if I was doing alot of rock crawling. Even with 30's mine climbed a long decent gradiant just fine in 1st and I was towing a trailer. Even at the rock garden at Yalwal, 1st low on 31's did it ok.

just remember zooks are different to landcruisers. what size engine is in the cruiser? deisil? And what's a Vitara...
In my opinion, Sure they're awsome to have, but it's a bit too much $$ for little gain. Especially for the terrain that you drive.

[Samwich]

Im not really looking for the hills, that i can keep doing in 1st

Its that low first will stall on itself very easy ...
The crusier is a 4.2L diesel, and i KNOW it is a different car and has alot better engine braking,

I was looking for low gears for rock crawling and really technical stuff, i find myself on the breaks to much on certain parts, its either im on the breaks, or full on the accelorator

[lee88]

I disagree - i think its a huge gain if you only do harder rock driving. the low range gears make it so much more controlled and driveable on rocks & steep descents.
(On anything other than rocks though, low range will practically become useless.)
I haven't driven much yet though as my car has been off the road for a while, but with the few times i've taken it out with the crawler gears the difference is amazing on rocks but it is VERY slow with 31s. (Eg. if i put it in first gear low range i can hop out and walk faster then the car drives..)

I suggest think about what you want from you car and what you use it for before you spend the money on the gearing.
And lowrangeoffroad and trailtough in the US sell the gears.

[Samwich]

lee88 wrote:

I disagree - i think its a huge gain if you only do harder rock driving. the low range gears make it so much more controlled and driveable on rocks & steep descents.
(On anything other than rocks though, low range will practically become useless.)
I haven't driven much yet though as my car has been off the road for a while, but with the few times i've taken it out with the crawler gears the difference is amazing on rocks but it is VERY slow with 31s. (Eg. if i put it in first gear low range i can hop out and walk faster then the car drives..)

I suggest think about what you want from you car and what you use it for before you spend the money on the gearing.
And lowrangeoffroad and trailtough in the US sell the gears.

With my dads car, in 1st his foot is always on the accelorator, thats how slow it is, which is better AND safer then breaking down a hill....

In the end im putting a 3" calmini kit and a 3" body lift with 33's... but for now it will be 2" body and lift with 31's

[Gwagensteve]

You're not comparing apples with apples. Land cruisers have lower gearing but also a completely different engine characteristic.

If you want more gearing off road fit transfer gears (there's only one ratio available. It's plenty low enough for crawling.

31's and especially 33"s will suck on road regardless of the transfer gears as they only effect low range.

Steve.

[atari4x4]

Samwich wrote:

In the end im putting a 3" calmini kit and a 3" body lift with 33's... but for now it will be 2" body and lift with 31's

you must have money to burn, why go for the step in between... it just makes no sense to me.

as steve said high range is going to be bad on either tyre.

[buzbox]

lee88 wrote:

I disagree - i think its a huge gain if you only do harder rock driving.

That is pretty much what I was getting at.

Sam after explaining to me what you mainly want to use it for and which direction you should go with it, I think it's waay overkill. I think you should try driving those types of terrain then making your mind up. That's pretty much what I did and come to the conclusion of that I don't need transfer gears. With a locked rear end I definitly noticed I was going much slower over stuff like rocks and hill climbs.

You've just installed a new 2" sus lift with new tyres, One week later you want to change that to 6" lift, bigger tyres, transfer gears, blah blah blah. Now I read you want a sierra?? I think you need to think hard about what you really want, a Landcruiser.

[Samwich]

atari4x4 wrote:

Samwich wrote:

In the end im putting a 3" calmini kit and a 3" body lift with 33's... but for now it will be 2" body and lift with 31's

you must have money to burn, why go for the step in between... it just makes no sense to me.

as steve said high range is going to be bad on either tyre.

Im a 19yo that works in the public service... i have ALOT of money to burn hahaha

[tanshi]

33s on a vitara is gonna mean exploding CVs!!!!

to me it sounds like your building the wrong car for the purpose.

[atari4x4]

why bother messing around with baby steps... man up & go 33's straight up.

[abclarke]

Samwich wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

Samwich wrote:

In the end im putting a 3" calmini kit and a 3" body lift with 33's... but for now it will be 2" body and lift with 31's

you must have money to burn, why go for the step in between... it just makes no sense to me.

as steve said high range is going to be bad on either tyre.

Im a 19yo that works in the public service... i have ALOT of money to burn hahaha

Haha that's our tax money being well spent then I see?

[buzbox]

Samwich wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

Samwich wrote:

In the end im putting a 3" calmini kit and a 3" body lift with 33's... but for now it will be 2" body and lift with 31's

you must have money to burn, why go for the step in between... it just makes no sense to me.

as steve said high range is going to be bad on either tyre.

Im a 19yo that works in the public service... i have ALOT of money to burn hahaha

Too much money, not enough sense. If I were you I'd look at putting some of those earnings into a home saver account and or investment properties. I would've fkn killed to own my own home by the age of 25. I know you don't really think about that shit when your young, but give it 5-10 years and you'd be saying shoulda coulda woulda but didn't.

But... oh well.. As you were.....................

[atari4x4]

lol i dont think he signed up for financial advice

[Samwich]

buzbox wrote:

Samwich wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

Samwich wrote:

In the end im putting a 3" calmini kit and a 3" body lift with 33's... but for now it will be 2" body and lift with 31's

you must have money to burn, why go for the step in between... it just makes no sense to me.

as steve said high range is going to be bad on either tyre.

Im a 19yo that works in the public service... i have ALOT of money to burn hahaha

Too much money, not enough sense. If I were you I'd look at putting some of those earnings into a home saver account and or investment properties. I would've fkn killed to own my own home by the age of 25. I know you don't really think about that shit when your young, but give it 5-10 years and you'd be saying shoulda coulda woulda but didn't.

But... oh well.. As you were.....................

Haha yeah i got 60k ish away atm... and i put a % of my pay away, still have quite abit to play around with

[Samwich]

abclarke wrote:

Samwich wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

Samwich wrote:

In the end im putting a 3" calmini kit and a 3" body lift with 33's... but for now it will be 2" body and lift with 31's

you must have money to burn, why go for the step in between... it just makes no sense to me.

as steve said high range is going to be bad on either tyre.

Im a 19yo that works in the public service... i have ALOT of money to burn hahaha

Haha that's our tax money being well spent then I see?

HAHAHA yeah well at least im not as bad as the AFP....

[atari4x4]

60k in the bank, i'd be lucky to have 60c in mine... 19yo & that sort of money, i'm guessing "public service" means your a drug dealer?


FYI stashed cash money is where it's at.

[Samwich]

Ive been working since 13 haha and have Saved ever since
Been in the public service for near 2 years now (since i finished college)

[tombutt]

gears are good but unless your doing really slow work annoying at times low range almost becomes unusable for anything that isn't slow speed crawling work if your in the mud you will be in the higher end of the gear box if your just trying to cruise along you will be high range. i go out with a lot of hilux's cruiser's and the alike and where they will be in low range cruising around between things i always have to stop and go to high range just make sure your not gearing it too low for the driving your doing

[DarkHorse]

Gearing too low... get bigger tyres

[shandy92]

DarkHorse wrote:

Gearing too low... get bigger tyres

ahah just thinking the same thing....i just bought a set of gears and getting them fitted at the moment, there is no other cheap option availible for the vits so the choice was rather easy. if i could think of a way to easily run a sierra case and get it engineered i would do that but i cant.