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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8136 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:55 pm |
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The screws Suzuki use to hold the door hinges etc to the car look like they are easy to remove but can be damn stubborn.
I have tried several methods to remove them and spent a few $$ on impact driver bits that just shatter..Impact driver can also dent panels, not that the average Zook owner cares about a small dent but there are still a few nice shiny ones out there.
STEP 1:
You will need: Hammer, Coldchisel, Large phillips head screwdriver.
Step 2:
Place the coldchisel on the edge of the screw like shown below. Strike with hammer hard enough to put a notch in the screw.
STEP 3:
Keeping the tip of the chisel in the notch, lay it over a bit as shown. Undo is anti-clockwise so always lay it to the right when looking at the screw head.
STEP 4:
Strike again with hammer and screw will begin to rotate.
STEP 5:
Remove screw with screwdriver.
Always use Coppertec or NevaSieze or similar when reinstalling these screws and removing them in future will only require a screwdriver.
Ideally they are best replaced with stainless button head capscrews.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14501 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:12 pm |
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I need to pull mine out soon as the paint is coming off them and it looks a little shabby. Anyone know where I can get some anodised button head cap screws from??
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8136 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:16 pm |
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Anodised steel will rust quicker than painted.
Get some Stainless Steel button head capscrews. M8 X 1.25 They aren't cheap like mild steel but look better and last forever.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:52 pm |
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Nice one!! how long do you need to leave the chisel in the fridge for?? 
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8136 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:06 pm |
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steknig wrote: Nice one!! how long do you need to leave the chisel in the fridge for?? 
HUH? Oh I get it "Cold" chisel.....  Funny bastard. 
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:07 pm |
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want33s wrote: Anodised steel will rust quicker than painted. Get some Stainless Steel button head capscrews. M8 X 1.25 They aren't cheap like mild steel but look better and last forever.
Did'nt think anodised would react with the other metal
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8136 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:11 pm |
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Rockhopper wrote: Did'nt think anodised would react with the other metal
Anodised screws won't 'react' with other metal but the anodised screws bolts etc you can buy are pretty poor anodising.. It looks great all shiny gold but will be rusty in 12-24 months, sooner if you do much beach work.
Stainless on the other hand, you can leave to your grandchildren.
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Ridge
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 942 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: sierra leaf sprung buggy
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:02 pm |
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you can also drill through the centre of the bolt and use an easy-out.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:11 pm |
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Ridge wrote: you can also drill through the centre of the bolt and use an easy-out.
It probably took longer to pose for the photo`s than it take`s to do this way, apart from a impact driver (which dosen`t always work) it`s the quickest way.
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
Vehicle: jimny
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:36 pm |
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i sell nuts and bolts for a living and i was thinking of doing up a kit and was wondering if anyone was interested in a body bolt kit to suit their zook, out of stainless of course
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peeeete
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 351 Location: BRISBANE!!!
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:41 pm |
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how much you charging eldo? im missing bout three screws just on the doors...
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jimbo_jones

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Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4362 Location: gong
Vehicle: 2015 Jimny, LJ50, Maruti
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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:45 pm |
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eldo wrote: i sell nuts and bolts for a living and i was thinking of doing up a kit and was wondering if anyone was interested in a body bolt kit to suit their zook, out of stainless of course
you can do a test kit and try it on my zook 
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S13RR4
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1072 Location: Sunshine Coast
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 Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:15 am |
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[quote="want33s"]
nice rust hole  ... hahah mines not much better  , will be after summer though 
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
Vehicle: jimny
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 Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:36 am |
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peeeete wrote: how much you charging eldo? im missing bout three screws just on the doors...
i dont know yet, as i have a long wheel base im assuming i would have different numbers of bolts etc in mine. if you can give me the number, thread pitch etc i can get them easy enough. i think they are all 8mm 1.25pitch, i could be wrong but.
i was going to do a lwb,swb and tin top kit, it just depends if there is enough interest as they are stainless and its not cheap stuff to buy..
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:44 pm |
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Maybe not a whole body bolt kit but just doors or targa bar etc. I'd imagine a whole body kit would cost a small fortune and we're all tight arses here 
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MART
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 282 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:43 pm |
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I bought all my stainless bolts from parramatta , they were cheaper to buy as a box of 100 than to buy individually , as you pay a different rate for individual ammounts , I think 30 of the m8 x 20 where the same price as the box , you guys could split a box in areas where you are close , Cheers Paul.
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matty87
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 794 Location: the wild west
Vehicle: 1987 sierra tray back buggy
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 Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:01 pm |
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good idea ther guys. i had to get the doors off a little 20 year old sierra did something similar but insted used philips head fitting for a half inch breaker bar and belted it in till it stayed then attached the breaker bar and that worked but they were stuck nice and tight.
am gonna use internal hex head screws to replace the screws should solve the problem happening again.
What is it with suzuki and screws did they have a sister company that made screws or something coz there are shit loads of them on the sierras.
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:12 pm |
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i'd rather it screwed than glued together
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foonji
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1286
Vehicle: Suzuki
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 Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:41 pm |
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I wouldn't mind new screws for my zook. would be interested in suitable kit.
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4892 Location: Northcote
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 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:20 am |
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good tech! 
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:03 am |
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Yeh nice little bit of info, it does work well. For the really tough ones, you can also weld an old bolt to the head of the screw and it will come straight out.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:52 am |
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I've tried this before with varied levels os success.
Worst was when I had to continually hit the 'Notch' so many time the head of the bolt split in 2 and left the half head and thread there
And just be careful with stainless bolts. They are not graded the same way as steel bolts, so you have to pay attention to what you are replacing. Door bolts are fine, but body mount bolts, or suspension bolts etc should remain G8 mild steel.
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: '96 LWB trayback
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 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:04 am |
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eldo wrote: i sell nuts and bolts for a living and i was thinking of doing up a kit and was wondering if anyone was interested in a body bolt kit to suit their zook, out of stainless of course
I'd be all over a set. I've got so many crappy looking rusted/corroded bolts & panel screws in my maruti, it really leaves a cheap finish on all the work i've been doing.
Staino bolts would be tops. Don't be shy about whacking a kit together.
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sierrajim
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 345 Location: Hugging Royce behind the shelter shed
Vehicle: Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:09 pm |
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You need one of these. Hold it on the screw, hit it with a hammer and presto, its loose.
The main shaft spins when hit.
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:15 pm |
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sierrajim wrote: hit it with a hammer and presto, its loose.
Or snaps the head off.
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:18 pm |
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sierrajim wrote:  You need one of these. Hold it on the screw, hit it with a hammer and presto, its loose. The main shaft spins when hit.
I have in the past used the head off an impact driver like this one on my rattle gun, that works a treat as well.
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Crunched
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 684 Location: Sth Bris
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 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:52 pm |
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I do it quite differently - angle grinder with a cutting disc, cut 2 sides off the bolt head to make it square(ish). Use a spanner to undo it. Replace the bolt when refitting.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8136 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:10 am |
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sierrajim wrote:  You need one of these. Hold it on the screw, hit it with a hammer and presto, its loose. The main shaft spins when hit.
Also an excellent way to dent the cowl panel.
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