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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:30 pm |
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Well I've just scored a 1.6 (with gearbox) for my sierra. I have read that the vit box is good and should be used but looking at it, I cant see it fitting a shorty. Anyone actually fitted one?
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:16 am |
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ok I think I am answering my own question. I did some measuring now I have both engines and vehicle here. But for those who would also like to know 1.6 eng 470mm gb 580 tx 320 total 1370 1.3 eng 450mm gb 500 tx 490 total 1440
And as you know the gb and tx are mated together on the 1.6 and seperate on the 1.3.
The biggest issue is the gearshift on the 1.6 is back sitting ontop the transfer so you would nearly have to be in the back seat(if you have them) to change gears.
Disclaimer: my measuring stick may be out a little so adjust as you need to satisfy yourself
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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I typed a lengthy response to this question earlier today, and its not here now 
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bazook

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Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1082 Location: brisbane logan
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Im going to start my conversion on the weekend but I have allready widened the tunnel so ishould have any dramas all ive been told is take the transfer case off the vitara box and get a welch plug to fit the bottom hole and get a seal for the outpu shaft (part number not sure of) and the sierra jack shaft should go straight in
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:18 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: ^ correct.
Steve. Not really correct. If it is a manual than no you don't need a plug for the lower shaft....it has one and secondly there is already an output seal on the shaft.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:09 pm |
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joeblow wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: ^ correct.
Steve. Not really correct. If it is a manual than no you don't need a plug for the lower shaft....it has one and secondly there is already an output seal on the shaft. Mine is a manual. It needs a welch plug.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:33 pm |
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So it might be possible, looks like a lot of tunnel bashing to be had though and what do you do about the gearshift being so far back
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:57 pm |
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 I'm still curious....a welch plug for which part? As you can see on this manual the countershaft is plugged and there is a seal on the output.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Manual. Perhaps the J20 gearbox/ transfer housing is different? 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:10 pm |
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Ah. Now I see. You took the front housing of the transfer off.
I left it on, with the intention of fitting a second seal.
IMO it looks better than 2' of shaft hanging out the back of the gearbox.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:15 pm |
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Thanks Fatzook, long read but I got some good info. What goes on the back of the vit gearbox and what shaft do I use or modify between the vit box and the transfer case?
Last edited by burls on Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Fatzook

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burls wrote: What/who is the flange mounted for the tx shaft? Eh?
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burls

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oops was late post has been edited sorry
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:41 pm |
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burls wrote: What goes on the back of the vit gearbox and what shaft do I use or modify between the vit box and the transfer case? I've just left the back of the box open. Fit a vitara output seal into the seal housing, plug up the other holes, and call it done. I've used a shortened WT jackshaft. Fits straight onto the spline, and runs in the vit seal nicely. Unfortunately I cannot tell you if your shaft will need shortening though, as I have a J20, moved back till it touches the firewall, so my gearbox is in a different location than yours will be. Peter
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:27 am |
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Thanks, So the transfer case stays where it is, thats good. Got any more pics of the mounts and shaft. Hey Joe did you do similar with yours?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:29 am |
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Transfer stays where it is.
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