[cammac]

Hey guys so iv'e had a problem with my rear speakers for ages, and they really have just been all around a big pain in the ass.
Mainly because i picked up a pair of cheap boxes for 6x9 speakers, that when 4wding kind of just flew around the back of the car, and damaging all the connections i made.

< I Call them shitboxes
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Their inability to stay put has broken two sets of speakers

Anyway my idea was to mount the speakers in the side pockets, as i dont even use them and really its a perfect spot, much like this



Anyone got suggestions on how to go about it? I've redone all the wiring/soldering and there is enough cable for each side and whatnot.

Cheers,
Cam

[Wolf]

Fibreglassing? That second pic would be what i use

[atari4x4]

build a speaker box using the tried & tested technique of mdf, cloth & fiberglass.

[cammac]

Fiberglass would be nice, but wouldn't have a clue where too start haha, mdf box could work well! probably have to play around with a few shapes i suppose!

If i didn't go with the sides, what have other people done with their rear speakers?

[Wolf]

I have then in those rear vent things, with the fiberglass you just make a sketeton with mdf and put the special fiberglass cloth on it to get the shape and then apply the matting, then smooth with filler, probs not the right way but somthing like that

[atari4x4]

cammac wrote:

Fiberglass would be nice, but wouldn't have a clue where too start haha, mdf box could work well! probably have to play around with a few shapes i suppose!

If i didn't go with the sides, what have other people done with their rear speakers?

whoops, tried posting a youtube vid as a pic... try this one for size.

[cammac]

atari4x4 wrote:

cammac wrote:

Fiberglass would be nice, but wouldn't have a clue where too start haha, mdf box could work well! probably have to play around with a few shapes i suppose!

If i didn't go with the sides, what have other people done with their rear speakers?

whoops, tried posting a youtube vid as a pic... try this one for size.

ahah hectic, im thinking little 5x7's ill take a quick snap of the placement i came up with! easier to build a box where im thinking than trying to wedge in the side rests

[cammac]

So this is where I'm thinking, this is a 6x9 speaker though, probably use 5x7's

Fitting a box here will be much easier I think!

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[atari4x4]

why not buy just speakers that fit.

[cammac]

atari4x4 wrote:

why not buy just speakers that fit.

In the rear stock slots?



Don't think it would provide enough range/ depth of sound, dont want it too be loud, just want the quailty, i have a nice speaker system at home, when i jump in my car its like my ears are burning ahah
But im open to all ideas hey, and ideally the easiest option!



http://www.danbp.org/w/Installation_of_ ... zuki_Jimny

[cammac]

So just had a solid google and search, using those rear slots, i could get some good mid range speakers, and then install an underseat amp/sub that give the depth. What you guys reckon? easier than building unnecessary boxes that take up space?

[Wolf]

If you really want to get maximun audio fedelity, you can cut it out a bit more and put a 6x9 lol, i think best bet is what ill end up doing, if u have no rear seats, make a box behind the cup holders and get a 10" sub, they fit decently, you dont get that great of bass response with an active slimline sub, i have german mistero 4" crossovers with tweeters at the front and 4" rockerfostgates in the back, they work well, but if anything i need more mid then low, might make some boxes behind the seats and add some 6x9s

[atari4x4]

^^^ 6x9's are a poor solution to sound quality.

cammac wrote:

So just had a solid google and search, using those rear slots, i could get some good mid range speakers, and then install an underseat amp/sub that give the depth. What you guys reckon? easier than building unnecessary boxes that take up space?

if i still gave a shit about sound quality i'd be doing something like that, some quality speakers in the factory location & using the area you were looking at using in the back right hand corner build a vertical subwoofer enclosure that hugged the profile of the C pillar, inner wheel arch, floor, side panel & fill it with a quality 10" dual voice coil sub... right hand side cause that's the side the door hinges from so you won't be having to work around it all the time.

something like this but built to the space you have.

[Wolf]

Whats good for mids altari? 6"?

[atari4x4]

i'd waste my money on some 6" splits & a sub over 6x9's personally.

[cammac]

Wolf wrote:

Whats good for mids altari? 6"?

my 6x9 were great for quality (well compared to just the front 2), they were 3 way's but yeah they flew around the back like gravity didn't exist, just more of a problem than a solution

atari4x4 wrote:

if i still gave a shit about sound quality i'd be doing something like that, some quality speakers in the factory location & using the area you were looking at using in the back right hand corner build a vertical subwoofer enclosure that hugged the profile of the C pillar, inner wheel arch, floor, side panel & fill it with a quality 10" dual voice coil sub... right hand side cause that's the side the door hinges from so you won't be having to work around it all the time.

something like this but built to the space you have.

haha yeah i'm not worried about it being loud, not like i'm an old man ahah but quality is my dilemma.

this http://www.motoquipe.com.au/buy/fusion- ... Av_i8P8HAQ

Seems like a decent solution, and does save me from building a box,
a box would be a good project, but sure i would fuck it up somewhere along the way :/ haha

[atari4x4]

i hope that sub/amp combo is waterproof.

[cammac]

atari4x4 wrote:

i hope that sub/amp combo is waterproof.

ahah yeah i have read some stories about water crossings with an under seat amp... none of them good :/

need some of that waterproof nano coating

[Wolf]

Marine speakers haha

[cammac]

haha looks like ill be doing the underseat amp/sub, and using the two back speaker slots. Will sound good, and saves me from making boxes and taking up room in the back! Plus will be just as cheap!

[GraphicX]

i installed some 6.5" 3 way speakers into the factory spots today:

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standard hole is 5", so i made a speaker bracket on each side using approx 6mm mdf. the speaker is in upside down, but that's to clear the terminals. on one side & bottom of the bracket i had to cut the edge flat to match the shape of the car. there was enough clearance with the side panel replaced so it wasn't touching the speaker, but i still removed the lip on the inside of the panel with a rotary tool just to be sure.

[cammac]

GraphicX wrote:

i installed some 6.5" 3 way speakers into the factory spots today:

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standard hole is 5", so i made a speaker bracket on each side using approx 6mm mdf. the speaker is in upside down, but that's to clear the terminals. on one side & bottom of the bracket i had to cut the edge flat to match the shape of the car. there was enough clearance with the side panel replaced so it wasn't touching the speaker, but i still removed the lip on the inside of the panel with a rotary tool just to be sure.

oh good thinking haha, nice and out of the way! Bit cheaper than an underseat amp sub

[GraphicX]

i'm still keeping my eyes open for something like that as well though, may be better to have a regular sub/amp that i can remove easily though as i pretty much use under the seats for storing all my crap.

[cammac]

GraphicX wrote:

i'm still keeping my eyes open for something like that as well though, may be better to have a regular sub/amp that i can remove easily though as i pretty much use under the seats for storing all my crap.

Yeah I like too store my air compressor hose and whatnot under the seat, but if I got a small amp, probably wouldn't get in the way, and could still fit a few bits and pieces under there.

[cammac]

GraphicX wrote:

i installed some 6.5" 3 way speakers into the factory spots today:

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2014-10-25 13.20.13.jpg

standard hole is 5", so i made a speaker bracket on each side using approx 6mm mdf. the speaker is in upside down, but that's to clear the terminals. on one side & bottom of the bracket i had to cut the edge flat to match the shape of the car. there was enough clearance with the side panel replaced so it wasn't touching the speaker, but i still removed the lip on the inside of the panel with a rotary tool just to be sure.

How much space do you reckon there is between the plastic side panel (when put back in place) and the cutout/speaker hole? considering doing the same with 6" but depth is my concern :/

[GraphicX]

with the speaker & the spacer i'm guessing there was maybe another 2mm, so possibly 10mm all up.

[cammac]

GraphicX wrote:

with the speaker & the spacer i'm guessing there was maybe another 2mm, so possibly 10mm all up.

alright cheers, absolutely cant make up my mind ahah so many options!

[cammac]

Just an update for those interested I brought these
http://www.soundmaster.com.au/Polk-Audi ... ers/db501/

Seem like good quality speakers!

[GraphicX]

they should drop straight in for you, will save a ton of trouble.

have you got speakers in the front ? i think the holes are only 4".

[cammac]

GraphicX wrote:

they should drop straight in for you, will save a ton of trouble.

have you got speakers in the front ? i think the holes are only 4".

Yeah got a pair of these little guys

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/gps-car-audio ... ers/54257/

Nothing special, got them when i first got the jim, but they have done a good job! and sound is decent for 4" speakers, apart from a bit of rattling when volume is too high, when i redo the back ones, might try fix them in a bit tighter.