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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: chick magnet coily
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hi guys just a quick question (hopefully)...
just wondering if there is any difference between wide track cr-mo cv's and coily cv's not the axles just the cv's...would there be any chance i could machine some down to suite a coily? has anybody tried it? i am just wondering as i have acess to mills/lathes and was wondering if it was possoble.
thanks in advance max
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:56 pm |
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No point if you are running standard axles.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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X2. Inner axles will then become the weak link.
Steve.
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: chick magnet coily
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:31 am |
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And coilys run vit hubs not sierra hubs
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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So the stub axle is a different length. This can be fixed with spacers between the hub and freewheeling hub, but it's one more issue.
Steve.
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: chick magnet coily
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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 Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:07 am |
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Couldn't you just change the ends of the coily diff to WT knuckles/spindles and hubs so the wt axles fit? You're still not gaining much if anything you'd be better doing the full diff swap wouldn't you?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:30 am |
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What will you do for steering? Coily diffs/knuckles run the tie rod behind the diff to make room for the panhard up front.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Quote: nothing fits a coily
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: 00 Jimny, 63 Haffy
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 Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:39 pm |
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Put in a complete jimny diff/housing and buy chromolly axels and cvs. Panhard will be in the right place then, the other mounts for the coils and arms probaby just need a little moving to fit.
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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neofitou wrote: Put in a complete jimny diff/housing and buy chromolly axels and cvs. Panhard will be in the right place then, the other mounts for the coils and arms probaby just need a little moving to fit. That much hastle, you might as well go WT diff 
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: 00 Jimny, 63 Haffy
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And waste a perfectly good WT diff!?
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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neofitou wrote: And waste a perfectly good WT diff!? 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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neofitou wrote: Put in a complete jimny diff/housing and buy chromolly axels and cvs. Panhard will be in the right place then, the other mounts for the coils and arms probaby just need a little moving to fit. Seems like a sideways step to me. Jimny has all the same issues as the coily. Complete swap to WT, or just live with your coily gear. Only 2 options IMO.
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cbzook

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Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 272 Location: Port Macquarie
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wat if u were to run a nt rear centre up from with custom made axles made to suit a wt cv, run a spacer on the hub as mentioned above to keep steering gear etc? then u could also run a lokka up front
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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cbzook wrote: wat if u were to run a nt rear centre up from with custom made axles made to suit a wt cv, run a spacer on the hub as mentioned above to keep steering gear etc? then u could also run a lokka up front Once more for those who are having issues with spacial awareness. Fatzook wrote: What will you do for steering? Coily diffs/knuckles run the tie rod behind the diff to make room for the panhard up front. You can't change to a low pinion leafy centre without moving the tie rod to the front side of the diff. This can't be done without major mods to the panhard bar, and locating brackets, as the drag link, tie rod and panhard are all competing for the same VERY limited space. EDIT. The ONLY option to run the WT CRMO cv's would be a custom 22 spline inner axle to suit the coily HP centre, and spacers for the hub.
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Fatzook wrote: cbzook wrote: wat if u were to run a nt rear centre up from with custom made axles made to suit a wt cv, run a spacer on the hub as mentioned above to keep steering gear etc? then u could also run a lokka up front Once more for those who are having issues with spacial awareness. Fatzook wrote: What will you do for steering? Coily diffs/knuckles run the tie rod behind the diff to make room for the panhard up front. You can't change to a low pinion leafy centre without moving the tie rod to the front side of the diff. This can't be done without major mods to the panhard bar, and locating brackets, as the drag link, tie rod and panhard are all competing for the same VERY limited space. EDIT. The ONLY option to run the WT CRMO cv's would be a custom 22 spline inner axle to suit the coily HP centre, and spacers for the hub. It didn't take that long to do 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Doh! Beaten by FZ's lightning fingers!
The tie rod is behind the axle and won't clear the pinion. That's why a coil front is high pinion.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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highsteer arms pointing backwards 
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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Just do what the lux guys do, make up a homemade y-arm high steer by welding a 2nd arm upside down on top of the stock arms 
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Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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Its called a Y-Arm and they do it to eliminate the crappy J-Arm setup they have stock and alot of buggies not running full hydro do it because the high steer arms make the drag link and tie rod sit too high and it hits the chassis rail when the cars are built low. Superior Engineering actually still sell them. http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... ts_id=2816 
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Buggy would be ok I guess. I can see how that wood work. Excuse my ignorance 
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Buggy would be ok I guess. I can see how that wood work. Excuse my ignorance 
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cbzook

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Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 272 Location: Port Macquarie
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 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:31 pm |
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this kinda seems doable then
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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cbzook wrote: this kinda seems doable then It is...look at the front of my Coily viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8149&start=840Pics down the bottom 
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