[Deego]

I got a Suzuki sierra 2 inch lift 2 inch body.Whats the easiest way to get more flex without doing much mods.

[atari4x4]

Drop Shackles

[Deego]

What are the best ones and do I have to change anything with these drop shackles

[SierraDan]

You'll need to change everything. And without a suck down winch, they're no good in my opinion.

Take a leaf out, that's probably as good as it gets providing your shocks arent limiting anything.

RUF (Rear springs in the front) is the way to go, but it's work.

[atari4x4]

Dan he asked for easy Flex...

Seriously Deego, are you for real or just trolling?

I know this is the noob section, but fark me

[SierraDan]

Yeah I know that's why I said take a leaf out.

And to avoid another question "oh.. So how else can I do it?" question I jumped ahead..

[Gwagensteve]

Get a locker. Flex is overrated.

Steve.

And yes, I'm being serious.

[SierraDan]

I agree. I Was twin locked before I had any flex and went everywhere. I just had wheels fairly distant from the ground a lot. When I got RUF, I just lifted rear wheels less.. But the wheelbase extension as small as it was helped a lot.

Flex helps with balance if its sensible.

[Gwagensteve]

Absolutely. Too much flex though makes a car spooky.

PS Deego - Atari was taking the piss. Drop shackles are retarded.

Steve.

[Deego]

This is a stupid question but What does RUF mean

[atari4x4]

Rear Up Front

:facepalm: next question... what are rears?

rear springs

[Deego]

Are the back springs difference to the front.how does it make more flex they longer

[Shansh]

deego you are going to have to learn to use the search function, its at the top of the screen between FAQ and members, its a bit tricky at times but can be really helpful, especially with topics like RUF, which you wouldnt be aware of has been asked about a gazillion times, myself included when i first joined.

RUF means rears up front, ie, rear leaf springs used in the front so you have four rear springs installed to give more flex. There are 2 ways to do this, some people use extended shackles and then re drill the rear spring perch, others extend the front of the chassis to get the extra length and flex, it depends on what you want to acheive and how comfortable you are with welding and cutting as to which way you would go about it

[Gwagensteve]

Deego wrote:

Are the back springs difference to the front.how does it make more flex they longer

Rear springs have more camber (or "arch")
They are longer by approximately 80mm
They have a much lower rate.

However, regardless of how you get the springs under the car, RUF is a a fairly involved and complex process - you are messing with important stuff.

Search is your friend.

Steve.

[atari4x4]

Deego wrote:

Are the back springs difference to the front.how does it make more flex they longer

:facepalm:

fuck it's not often that i'll tell someone to search, but i think it's time to do some research of your own & a fair bit of reading.

[Deego]

Has anyway got pics on doing a RUF I searched for it put can't find anything.

[atari4x4]

can't find anything or didn't really look that hard?

plenty of pics floating around on here...

this is one that i found via the search fucntion
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=21915&hilit=how+to+ruf

this is another on i also found via the search function
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21321&hilit=how+to+ruf

[Shansh]

Deego wrote:

Has anyway got pics on doing a RUF I searched for it put can't find anything.

you must be taking the piss mate, RUF along with "what size tyres should i put on it?" surely must pop in every search you could perform..........................

[Sco-tie]

Dont worry about everyones Pay outs it just comes with the knowledge none of us mean to be rude we just like to get to the point and want people to do there own research first and then clarrify later. You will be surprised how much you can learn on this forum jsut by reading other threads and if your not up for that kind of research then you'll prob be making costly unneeded mistakes down the line that i can almost guarrentee someone on here has done before you.

[want33s]

Deego wrote:

Are the back springs difference to the front.how does it make more flex they longer

Deego wrote:

Has anyway got pics on doing a RUF I searched for it put can't find anything.

Enough is enough.

[Deego]

I'm all new at this I'm not mechanical minded I will start researching first thanks mate.if some blokes are going to take the piss out of me well I don't care I'll just go talk to someone else who is willing to help.

[Fatzook]

Deego wrote:

I'm all new at this I'm not mechanical minded I will start researching first thanks mate.if some blokes are going to take the piss out of me well I don't care I'll just go talk to someone else who is willing to help.

You've come here to learn. Thats great. But just like university, the teachers are here to guide you, not spell it out for you. Thats what the search function and half a billion threads about RUF already on the forum for.

Most people here are willing to help mate, but when it appears that you are putting in NO effort at all to find shit out for yourself, it does bring out the type of responses you've seen here.

[Deego]

I was watching a DVD one bloke has a 2 inch spring and body lift 2 inch extendable shackles and longer shocked and he gets pretty good flex that looks like a easy mod to do saves doing a RUF .

[zooky08]

Extended shackles are not the best way, they give less approach angle. Body lift has nothing to do with flex.
2inch lift with ruf is way better then a car with 2" spring, body lift and extended shackles.

[SierraDan]

Extended shackles with the mount moved back/forward would give more flex.

[atari4x4]

SierraDan wrote:

Extended shackles with the mount moved back/forward would give more flex.

might as well do a RUF if you're going to cutting & welding

[Deego]

He had longer shocks would that hekp

[atari4x4]

longer shocks should be part of any comprehensive lift kit.

[SierraDan]

atari4x4 wrote:

SierraDan wrote:

Extended shackles with the mount moved back/forward would give more flex.

might as well do a RUF if you're going to cutting & welding

Yep. Unless youre American then you bolt it all on haha.

[bozzaa]

is it just me or is this not the noob section? ffs go easy on the guy, i am a noob as well, and im pretty bloody sure this is what forums are all about. i reckon i have seen steve reply to nearly every post on this whole website and probably repeated stuff 1000 times, especially about ruf setups, but remains completely patient every time with sound advice.