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shneva
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Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:46 am Posts: 69 Location: bendigo
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 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:29 am |
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hi all i have a swb vitara with calmini and 31s
and i hav just brought a lwb vit with a g16b auto with a supercharger on it and no lift,
many do wkend trips and use it for a daily
so either going to put the lift kit in the lwb or the driveline in the swb
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:32 am |
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you bought the superchaged lwb off ebay, how does it go?
SWB FTW
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:47 am |
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Swb would help with rampover angle as I'm always getting hung up on my belly In my 98" wb lwb vit
Lwb would be better if u need to take passengers or go camping
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Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:58 am |
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LWB for room
SWB for crazy angles!
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:36 pm |
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Depends on the the intended tyre size and lift. You need to see a LWB with the same lift and tyre size as your SWB to gauge if it will be suitable. Generally the longer the wheelbase, the bigger the tyre you want to compensate for ramp over angle.
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shneva
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Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:46 am Posts: 69 Location: bendigo
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:09 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: you bought the superchaged lwb off ebay, how do it go?
SWB FTW will let you now wen i pick it up
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:06 pm |
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LWB all the way.
The LWB will out climb the SWB. Less weight transfer too.
Putting the calmini kit in the LWB is a bolt on once you have the right diff drop brackets.
Putting the G16B/4 speed auto in the SWB could be an epic nightmare if the SWB is carby/manual.
Steve.
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:15 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: LWB all the way.
The LWB will out climb the SWB. Less weight transfer too.
Putting the calmini kit in the LWB is a bolt on once you have the right diff drop brackets.
Putting the G16B/4 speed auto in the SWB could be an epic nightmare if the SWB is carby/manual.
Steve. pretty sure diff drop brackets are the same between LWB & SWB.
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Fatzook
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:23 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: LWB all the way.
The LWB will out climb the SWB. Less weight transfer too.
Putting the calmini kit in the LWB is a bolt on once you have the right diff drop brackets.
Putting the G16B/4 speed auto in the SWB could be an epic nightmare if the SWB is carby/manual.
Steve. pretty sure diff drop brackets are the same between LWB & SWB. As long as they are both 1.6L
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:39 pm |
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Fatzook wrote: atari4x4 wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: LWB all the way.
The LWB will out climb the SWB. Less weight transfer too.
Putting the calmini kit in the LWB is a bolt on once you have the right diff drop brackets.
Putting the G16B/4 speed auto in the SWB could be an epic nightmare if the SWB is carby/manual.
Steve. pretty sure diff drop brackets are the same between LWB & SWB. As long as they are both 1.6L yer, i'm well aware of that & i'm pretty sure i the first person in OZ to deal with it... what i was getting as is calmini don't change a thing between the LWB & SWB kits.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:50 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: LWB all the way.
The LWB will out climb the SWB. Less weight transfer too.
Putting the calmini kit in the LWB is a bolt on once you have the right diff drop brackets.
Putting the G16B/4 speed auto in the SWB could be an epic nightmare if the SWB is carby/manual.
Steve. pretty sure diff drop brackets are the same between LWB & SWB. Hmm, I thought we had to rework the calmini brackets between 1.6 carby and 1.6 EFI, but maybe that was for the H20 car. I swapped and changed calmini brackets on CJ's car so many times I've lost track sorry for any confusion. Steve.
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atari4x4
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:52 pm |
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would have been the SV that needed the modded brackets
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:54 pm |
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I know that but I thought be chopped them up before CJ got the H20.
There you go.
Steve.
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britvit
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 627
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:39 pm |
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I'm having more or less the same dilemma, minus the supercharger! viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30325I would be very interested to hear how it goes with the S.C., from memory it looked like one of the AMR chargers in the ebay ad.
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shneva
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Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:46 am Posts: 69 Location: bendigo
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:12 pm |
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th swb is carby and manul, it also has some wiring faults in the park lights, what i was going to do was change the hole wireing harness and dash.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:24 pm |
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LWB. More stable offroad and better for long extended trips
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:39 pm |
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shneva wrote: th swb is carby and manul, it also has some wiring faults in the park lights, what i was going to do was change the hole wireing harness and dash. And fabricate the chassis mounts for the gearbox crossmember and source driveshafts and find a SWB EFI tank and modify the loom, tunnel, shifter, pedal box, swap radiators, swap the fuel system to EFI... Or bolt the calmini kit on to the LWB and drive it and have a more capable, more practical car. I know what I would do. Steve
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shneva
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Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:46 am Posts: 69 Location: bendigo
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:51 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: shneva wrote: th swb is carby and manul, it also has some wiring faults in the park lights, what i was going to do was change the hole wireing harness and dash. And fabricate the chassis mounts for the gearbox crossmember and source driveshafts and find a SWB EFI tank and modify the loom, tunnel, shifter, pedal box, swap radiators, swap the fuel system to EFI... Or bolt the calmini kit on to the LWB and drive it and have a more capable, more practical car. I know what I would do. Steve why would i need to change the crossmember bracket for gearbox, dont they run the same transfer case
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atari4x4
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:58 pm |
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auto gearbox is longer
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FullyZooked
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:01 am Posts: 1009 Location: Bendigo
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:01 pm |
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We are picking it up this weekend. Can't wait to see if it actually is drivable and the power gain is noticeable. Shaun I reckon your best pulling the donk and mating it straight to your 5sp box. I don't like the sounds of fabbing gearbox mounts and sourcing driveshafts. But hey, you supply the beer and we can make stuff work. Can't wait to run the boost up a smidge!  BTW SWB FTW.
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shneva
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Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:46 am Posts: 69 Location: bendigo
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:02 pm |
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ok by how much
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atari4x4
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:05 pm |
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not sure
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shneva
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:09 pm |
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mit have to do some measuring when i get it home
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:17 pm |
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Tn Gwagensteve wrote: LWB all the way.
Putting the G16B/4 speed auto in the SWB could be an epic nightmare if the SWB is carby/manual.
Steve. X2 I'm hearing ya! everything, that steve said and probably some other little bits he's forgotten. I was in the process of doing this to mine, probably would have been better off selling it and buying an efi swb 
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gregdixon
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:51 pm |
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LWB
Vits don't have flex so you need to compensate with the ability to lift tyres high off the ground without falling over. I have proven this works.
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:19 pm |
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gregdixon wrote: LWB
Vits don't have flex so you need to compensate with the ability to lift tyres high off the ground without falling over. I have proven this works. front flex*
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:33 pm |
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Park both cars side by side and lay under them. You'll be surprised how different they are.
It makes no sense to do the maximum work to end up with the minimum gain.
It makes less than no sense to do all manner of custom chopping and changing and bootyfab to end up with a car that suzuki already built.
It makes even less than no sense to discard the AW-4.
It will take less than a day to swap the calmini kit into the LWB.
It will take roughly a week to butcher up a SWB to have a manual/EFI properly.
It will take roughly two weeks to butcher up the carby SWB to have the EFI/AW4 setup.
Niether will work as well as the LWB with the calmini kit in it.
Steve.
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shneva
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:06 pm |
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you got a good point there, would prefer a soft top anyway so mit be better to buy one down the track and just swap my calmini over for now.
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shneva
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:08 pm |
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larry wrote: gregdixon wrote: LWB
Vits don't have flex so you need to compensate with the ability to lift tyres high off the ground without falling over. I have proven this works. front flex* i have the same problem with the swb anyway so i already now thats one spot i need to work on
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shneva
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:09 pm |
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ok well just to give an update i have decided to go with the lwb just feels alot more stable on the road and well im starting to like the auto
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