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drewhoo

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Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:59 am Posts: 109 Location: Sydney
Vehicle: 99 Dirty Green Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:35 am |
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Hi guys, bought a 99 jimny which had a rear tailshaft CV with no boot and was dry. suzuki only sell the entire rear tail shaft (450), so my mechanic cleaned it and put a generic boot kit on it
Driving down the highway, rubber bootkit exploded. Back at square one. Does this problem happen to anyone else? Any solutions? Cheers
Last edited by drewhoo on Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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I would be looking for another shaft with normal uni joints.
You would have to drill new holes in the transfer flange though.
Thats as much as i know about Jimnys's.
I sold my Jim rear shaft that i had here but i still have the front.
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drewhoo

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Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:59 am Posts: 109 Location: Sydney
Vehicle: 99 Dirty Green Jimny
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Hi guys, resurrecting this one. Mechanic put another boot kit on for free after my last post, have just finished a trip to Byron and back and the boot shredded again. Lasted longer ths time so happier. Obviously the highway vibrations are the cause.. I like the idea of replacing with a rear uni shaft, has anybody done this or can recommend a model to be looking at?
cheers!
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:19 am |
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I didn't have a clue what you guys are talking about as I didn't no they had a cv joint thing
Just went and looked at mine and hasn't got a boot, I'm guessing it hasn't for a while now.
Should I be running a boot?
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gman
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 172 Location: Longford, Tasmania
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:51 am |
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I Have a really bad memory and it has been a few years since i did this but I'll do my best to remember. I used to have a nt sierra so I must have used the parts from that as a donor, use the front transfer flange and front tail shaft take the tail shaft to a good drive shaft reco man and get them to shorten it to suit Jimny rear you may even use a Jimny Front drive shaft can't remember but there are Suzuki Parts interchangeable to do this some ideas to play with but it has been done.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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can you take pics of the shaft and boot in question? that'd most likely help someone on here see whats going on =)
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drewhoo

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Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:59 am Posts: 109 Location: Sydney
Vehicle: 99 Dirty Green Jimny
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zooky - when I bought the car there was no boot or anything. but there was a nasty clunking sound and odd acceleration jumping everytime i took off. being new to 4wd's i just threw it at the mechanic and he discovered the joint was bone dry and was just metal grinding metal. he put on the boot and filled with grease. I think it would take a considerable amount of time to break the cv if i didnt get it fixed, but it would definately happen.
gman - thanks for giving me a starting point to start asking around about. never played with interchanging drive shafts before, but happy to try. I do a fair bit of mud and water, so its pretty important to me to get the drive shaft right.
alien: more than happy, heres some pics. you can see I havent removed the shredded boot yet, just got home (but man did it make a BANG when it went). the grease has splattered all over the underside of the car. anything you can suggest ?
Thanks for the help guys, its great to learn this stuff
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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Mine is f#%ked then. Bone dry and no boot. Havnt had any problems with it and I Caine the shit out of my car 
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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ours had never blown out in over 100, 000km of thrashing changed to sierra shafts now
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:41 am |
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When I did my transfer swap they specify using a WT Sierra front drive shaft to replace the rear Jimny shaft. It's longer so for your Jim you'll need to have it shortened as gman mentioned.
The WT shaft flange holes will match but you'll need new nuts and bolts.
EDIT to above stuff-up: Don't know what I was thinking here guys. The WT shaft flange will match the Jimny diff flange, but NOT the standard transfer output flange. You'll need to have it drilled or something to make it work. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Here's a pic showing the longer WT shaft on the left and Jimny shaft on the right.

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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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I need a CV. I destroyed it on a rock face Saturday.
There is an eBay seller in the UK that has CV boots. His page suggests he also sells the CV's but he has just replied and says he does not.
eBay Drive Shaft CV boot
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drewhoo

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Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:59 am Posts: 109 Location: Sydney
Vehicle: 99 Dirty Green Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:52 pm |
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Guys, heaps of thanks for all that. Pretty much cleared up the whole thing in my head, pictures do make life easy...
I'll grab the bootkit you mentioned bugsta, cheap as chips anyway (euro exchange rate is awesome atm!!). And that will give me another few months to get the sierra shaft and have it modified to swap straight in and get rid of the CV altogether
Given others seem to have lost their CV boot, seems like the design is pretty flawed and fails alot!
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Yeah mine has been broken for quite a while but very close to the rear end of the cone, so it still kept the grease in and the moisture out from what I can tell.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Driveline Services says they cannot just replace the CV. Cost to modify my shaft and fit a standard uni joint... $650. I WON'T be doing that.
Is it not possible to remove and replace the CV? I have yet to pull the T-case end off and inspect it yet. Might do that this arvo.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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What's a Jimny Mark II rear shaft worth?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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How long is a jimny shaft compressed?
Been looking at toyota shafts for mine atm. They might be worth it for you to run them as theyre alot more common.
Luxdouble cardon front 750mm compressed
80' front normal uni's, 780mmish compressed
Same bolt pattern as a wt sierra. 10mm bolts
Adaptors can be bought cheap from lowrange as centre locating hole is 1mmish bigger than zook.
Double cardon holes are abit larger weird pcd. needs adaptor.
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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Bugsta wrote: I need a CV. I destroyed it on a rock face Saturday. There is an eBay seller in the UK that has CV boots. His page suggests he also sells the CV's but he has just replied and says he does not. eBay Drive Shaft CV boot
Did not think it would break on that rock step  .. was not extreme in any way[for your Jim at least! 
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Jimny rear prop shaft...
Compresseed 660mm
Extended ~700mm
I think the T-case end is the same but the diff bolt pattern is different.
I have found A Mark II for $100 and we have determined that all is the same as MIII. I am yet to do any research on this but a conversation I had yesterday with a Jimny veteran suggests it might be possible to change flanges on the input and output shafts with others (from Sierra or maybe Toyo) to allow easy mods.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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ZookFan wrote: Did not think it would break on that rock step  .. was not extreme in any way[for your Jim at least! 
I think as I pushed the front up the rock face, the back end slammed in ON the prop shaft. The weight of the car would have been enough to do this.
There is a crack on the other side of the cage as well that can't be seen in this photo.
I have called a couple of driveline/CV servicing companies and UK Suzuki suppliers but nobody has the CV kits for these.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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you should change your name to "breakstar"
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:39 pm |
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is your extended length between flanges at static height?
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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I've edited my post on Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:11 pm
Hope this hasn't stuffed anybody around.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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BlueSuzy wrote: is your extended length between flanges at static height?
I haven't actually measured on the vehicle. I just held the CV end on and extended out to approximately how I remembered it sitting. Also, someone I have been talking to had a Mark II shaft on hand measured it for me, and it agreed with my measurements.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Has anybody actually pulled one of these apart?
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