[shiv]

I have very little flex (the rear being the worst) and when entering large holes and drops, the wheel of the ground will drop suddenly and it gets close to rolling over.

my question is if i got some drop shackles and longer shocks would it provide more stability or will it just do the same just the tyre will be on the ground and the car will still drop picking up the slack in the droop?

im still new to the 4wd world so all advice is good

current set up is: SOA, 2" body lif, ironman shocks

[Fatzook]

What sized tyres?

Ordinarily I'd say drop shackles are rubbish, but with SPOA they would perform marginally better than SPUA. They are still a poor solution, and the extra travel that you get is uncontrolled and pretty much useless. Add the cost of the fucking things into the equation, and they are a terrible idea.

What springs are you using now?

[shiv]

33" silverstone 117 extremes

not sure what springs as the guy i bought it off never told me and i havnt looked to check. what is the best option for increasing travel? im only a trainee so cheaper options at the moment are more favorable

[Fatzook]

shiv wrote:

33" silverstone 117 extremes

not sure what springs as the guy i bought it off never told me and i havnt looked to check. what is the best option for increasing travel? im only a trainee so cheaper options at the moment are more favorable

Longer springs give best results.

Are your springs fairly flat? Or do they have some arch in them?

[shiv]

not sure. how do longer lefts effect the droop?

[JrZook]

shiv wrote:

not sure. how do longer lefts effect the droop?

Leaf spring travel or deflection is proportional to the main leaf length. Longer leaf will effectively have the ability for greater deflection/travel.

Put up a pic of the travel you are currently getting so it can be easier for us to judge your setup

Dan

[shiv]

cheers, im on night shift so ill get a pic up bout weds

[shiv]

In doing more research it recomends longer leaf springs all round with extended shackles. this is starting to sound right? my front has already been moved 50mm forward will this help with longer shackles and leaves?

[skyman]

You should not need a body lift if you are spring over, unless you are running like 37 inch tires.

It must be a tall Zook.

[alien]

show us a photo of the front and the rear at full flex... you might just be experiencing the full flavour of driving a suzuki =P

[shiv]

Ha, soon as i put the new clutch in it ill get some flex shots

yeah its sit quite high, big difference from my BA that sits 2" from the ground

[shiv]

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... =1&theater

thats a pic of my zook

[31zook]

Your a happy little fulla

[alien]

i reckon drop out the bodylift and lose a leaf from the spring packs to lower it a bit... once the leaves soften you should have a bit more flex, and cos of the reduced height you'll be more stable.

[shiv]

cheers

[TryHard]

alien wrote:

i reckon drop out the bodylift and lose a leaf from the spring packs to lower it a bit... once the leaves soften you should have a bit more flex, and cos of the reduced height you'll be more stable.

x2 iv learnt my lesson from being tall also maby if you can put some wheel spacers on it will help with stability

[LAY80N]

alien wrote:

i reckon drop out the bodylift and lose a leaf from the spring packs to lower it a bit... once the leaves soften you should have a bit more flex, and cos of the reduced height you'll be more stable.

This!

With 33 SPOA you should have dead flat springs. Setup your shocks and bumpstops to work with this ride height. If you need a bit more guard clearance modify your guards. The extra height you have would make your car feel even more spooky on angles.


Layto....

[shiv]

im thinking of getting hilux leafs, how long should the shackles be?

adding wheel spacers, wont that increase stress on the axle studs? just i bolted wheels on inside out so i could throw mud (EB falcon) and surprise surprise sheared the studs off the axle

i like the idea of spacers but just hesitant

[boostedbrick]

Hilux leafs will require more than just shackles. There 2 1/2inch wide compared to stock 2inch, so you will need new ubolts and associated. They are also somewhat longer, so will require new mounts. Possibly new shocks aswell...

[LAY80N]

Hilux leaves will require moving of the spring/shackle mounts. Non IFS lux front leaves work quite well when set up properly, but it is much more than a bolt in job.

Wheel stud holes have a taper in them that matches the taper on the wheel nuts. This is how the wheel stays centred on the studs and distributes the load correctly, as well as helping them stay tight. Putting them on backwards is just asking for snapped studs. Dont do it

Post some pics up of your zook flexed out. Have you checked that your shocks are not too short. A lack of droop will make your car feel very sketch when dropping into ruts and holes.

Layto....

[shiv]

ah thanks lay.

yeah i pick up the zook today, so ill take picks on the ramp. it would be nice if its just the stocks being to short, its got rancho 5000s

yeah our big read machine ( red eb basher) has its 4th axle, just to much fun.

but having a spacer, wouldnt that displace the tension to the top bolts more instead of an even load when at the center? or am i thinking the spacers going in the wrong spot?