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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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After some advice from the auszookers oracle,
Today I cracked open a front diff ive recently bought out of a comp car, and found 1 tooth on the ring gear is chipped. I cant find the chipped piece in the housing, pinion seems to be in good condition, all feels good.
How do ya reckon it will hold up? is it likely to chew out the pinion, and in turn, the ring gear?

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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
Vehicle: SJ50 hardtop!
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 Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:45 pm |
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Throw it out before it explodes and fucks more up
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Bucket wrote: Throw it out before it explodes and fucks more up

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11_evl
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 846 Location: logan reserve, Brisb
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for the risk of potentialy busting and taking out your locker i wouldnt risk it...
altho if it was an open center i recon if you were an easy driver it would last.
ps Rusho. saw your car yesterday at glasshouse, very neat, good job
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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11_evl wrote: for the risk of potentialy busting and taking out your locker i wouldnt risk it... altho if it was an open center i recon if you were an easy driver it would last.
ps Rusho. saw your car yesterday at glasshouse, very neat, good job
Thanks Mr.Evl  Was that you on the Moto's?? Looked familiar but couldn't put a name to the face 
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Mugwui
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1241 Location: Antarctica!
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 Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:52 pm |
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I'm currently having my locker fixed from a busted axle and pinion and it's costing me $1000. You don't want to go there!
X3, bin it!
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Ask Royce....... 
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Is this a trick question? Nah, bin it, put the locker in a good diff.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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 Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:49 pm |
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Surely shouldn't be that hard to change only the ring gear? Just get another one!
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Teracis wrote: Surely shouldn't be that hard to change only the ring gear? Just get another one!
Problem is they're a pair (crownwheel and pinion). Pinion height is the hard part in diff setup, but you could replace both. If you change the crownwheel only it's likely to get pretty musical. Cheap and easiest to put the locker in another centre.
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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 Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:41 pm |
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Thanks lads, was pretty much what I was expecting. It is a vitata front steel housing, so swapping it to another diff ain't gonna happen 
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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what ratio do you need to replace it. while you have it out its easy to swap the ring and pinion gears over.
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Mugwui
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1241 Location: Antarctica!
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If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped!
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Mugwui wrote: If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped!
What does that mean? 
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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Joe wrote: Mugwui wrote: If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped! What does that mean?  Quote: Lapping Process Goodwill Engineering To ensure smooth and quiet noise free functioning, the Gears and Pinions are lapped after hardening. Lapping is accomplished by running mating pairs together in a Gleason Hypoid lapping machine and then feeding a liquid abrasive compound under pressure into the gear pair. The compound removes small amounts of metal as the gears rotate, thus refining the tooth surface and achieving desired contact pattern.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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boostedbrick wrote: Joe wrote: Mugwui wrote: If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped! What does that mean?  Quote: Lapping Process Goodwill Engineering To ensure smooth and quiet noise free functioning, the Gears and Pinions are lapped after hardening. Lapping is accomplished by running mating pairs together in a Gleason Hypoid lapping machine and then feeding a liquid abrasive compound under pressure into the gear pair. The compound removes small amounts of metal as the gears rotate, thus refining the tooth surface and achieving desired contact pattern.
Sounds pricey 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Joe wrote: boostedbrick wrote: Joe wrote: Mugwui wrote: If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped! What does that mean?  Quote: Lapping Process Goodwill Engineering To ensure smooth and quiet noise free functioning, the Gears and Pinions are lapped after hardening. Lapping is accomplished by running mating pairs together in a Gleason Hypoid lapping machine and then feeding a liquid abrasive compound under pressure into the gear pair. The compound removes small amounts of metal as the gears rotate, thus refining the tooth surface and achieving desired contact pattern. Sounds pricey 
cheaper than a missing tooth or miss matched gear's...
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Mugwui
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1241 Location: Antarctica!
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:12 am |
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I'll be able to tell you at the end of the week when I get the itemised bill as lapping will be part of my rebuild.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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I had hotline 40 autoparts send me a sms the other day looking for a 5.12 front, I pushed past the collection of rear diffs & GV steel housings... and found nothing, well I found a couple but not sure what they are. I know one is a 4.6 & the other one I will have to check.
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ZUKOFHZRD
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:57 am Posts: 50 Location: perth WA
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its a crown wheel not a ring gear, ring gear is loctaed on your flywheel, get rid of it replace it with the same ratio that is in the other diff, i thort these gear sets were cheep enuf new
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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R&P = ring & pinion & they're both gears, so ring gear works for me... it is also a crown wheel & pinion... you say tomato, i say tomato.  i'd hate to price a new one from suzuki, but they do come up forsale 2nd hand quite often.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12998 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:09 pm |
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Something about that break makes me think that diff wasn't set up properly. It looks like the contact patch was WAY out.
Sierra or vitara R&P's aren't hard to find unless they are 4.8 or 4.3. 5.12's are everywhere. Just replace both R&P
Steve.
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Mugwui
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1241 Location: Antarctica!
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 Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:26 am |
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Mugwui wrote: I'll be able to tell you at the end of the week when I get the itemised bill as lapping will be part of my rebuild.
Cant tell you the price as the bill is itemised, but it only has a total price.
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