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sleeperzook
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Adelaide
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So I know power steering conversions for sierra's has been done to death and I've searched, so please bare with me guru's
I am fitting a cressida box to a WT sierra and have recently realised the rag joint spacings are slightly off. Due to the fact the rag joint holes are reinforced with metal collets I can hardly slot it out (not that Im too keen on that). So im wondering what have other people done? Is there something from another vehicle or somewhere you can get them custom made or maybe even buy the materials?
Cheers, Aaron.
Last edited by sleeperzook on Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
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matty87
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 794 Location: the wild west
Vehicle: 1987 sierra tray back buggy
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when i did it i used a uni joint out of an old car i had cut and welded the stearing shafts to length and had a uni instead of a rag joint. perhaps you can get the stearing shaft from the cressida with the appropriate uni joint
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86slowsierra

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Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 724 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: nt sierra
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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You could always make a new rag joint to suit.. After all they are just a piece of crossply tyre.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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sleeperzook wrote: So I know power steering conversions for sierra's has been done to death and I've searched, so please bare with me guru's  I am fitting a cressida box to a WT sierra and have recently realised the rag joint spacings are slightly off. Due to the fact the rag joint holes are reinforced with metal collets I can hardly slot it out (not that Im too keen on that). So im wondering what have other people done? Is there something from another vehicle or somewhere you can get them custom made or maybe even buy the materials? Cheers, Aaron.
Know of any more cressida boxes anywhere?
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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matty87 wrote: when i did it i used a uni joint out of an old car i had cut and welded the stearing shafts to length and had a uni instead of a rag joint. perhaps you can get the stearing shaft from the cressida with the appropriate uni joint
I am pretty sure that any heating, cutting or welding of steering components is a big no no in the rule book.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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True^ But look at the rest of his car..
Every steering box setup has a rag joint for vibration and slight movement between the chassis and body.
I don't run a rag joint, instead i machined up a plate to suit the vit uni to bolt to the sierra shaft with vit powersteer.
On sunday i had very loose steering, like 1/2 turn steering wheel, doing 80km/h. This is not good....
The uni was coming off the box spline! Been there more than a year though.
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sleeperzook
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Adelaide
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want33s wrote: You could always make a new rag joint to suit.. After all they are just a piece of crossply tyre. Probably a dumb question, but what runs cross ply tyre's these days? Isnt everything steel radial? I've got some bald commodore rubber in the shed that I've never got around to throwing away, would something like that suffice? lump_a_charcoal wrote: Know of any more cressida boxes anywhere?
I've come across one other in the local wrecking yard, I'll be going there today or tomorrow, so I can have a look. However I do know of a jimny P/S box for $350, which looking through the P/S threads seems cheap. In hindsight I should've done that, but my cressida box, pump and lines cost me like $100, so I'll put up with the fabbing I have to do.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
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a rag joint is just rubber with canvas through it.
I wouldnt go to the extreme of cutting up a wire radial tyre for a small circle of rubber.
find a clark rubber or similar, they should have an offcut or something you can use.
Or next would be make a adaptor plate.
I don't feel more or less vibration with no rag joint.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Lots of caravans & light trucks still run crossply tyres.... You'd get a used one for nothing from a tyre shop.
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matty87
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 794 Location: the wild west
Vehicle: 1987 sierra tray back buggy
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BlueSuzy wrote: True^ But look at the rest of his car..
Every steering box setup has a rag joint for vibration and slight movement between the chassis and body.
I don't run a rag joint, instead i machined up a plate to suit the vit uni to bolt to the sierra shaft with vit powersteer.
On sunday i had very loose steering, like 1/2 turn steering wheel, doing 80km/h. This is not good....
The uni was coming off the box spline! Been there more than a year though.
true but at least im not gonna drive it on the road unlike the 90% of the suzis on here that aren't legal.
anyway it may be against the rule to cut and weld a mild steel steering rod its not going to make it any weaker if done properly and the talk has been turned to making home made rag joints how can that be legal and any safer than a bit of chop chop?
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Chopz
Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 544 Location: Perth
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matty87 wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: True^ But look at the rest of his car..
Every steering box setup has a rag joint for vibration and slight movement between the chassis and body.
I don't run a rag joint, instead i machined up a plate to suit the vit uni to bolt to the sierra shaft with vit powersteer.
On sunday i had very loose steering, like 1/2 turn steering wheel, doing 80km/h. This is not good....
The uni was coming off the box spline! Been there more than a year though. true but at least im not gonna drive it on the road unlike the 90% of the suzis on here that aren't legal. anyway it may be against the rule to cut and weld a mild steel steering rod its not going to make it any weaker if done properly and the talk has been turned to making home made rag joints how can that be legal and any safer than a bit of chop chop?
i thought your suzi was road registered??
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matty87
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 794 Location: the wild west
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Chopz wrote: matty87 wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: True^ But look at the rest of his car..
Every steering box setup has a rag joint for vibration and slight movement between the chassis and body.
I don't run a rag joint, instead i machined up a plate to suit the vit uni to bolt to the sierra shaft with vit powersteer.
On sunday i had very loose steering, like 1/2 turn steering wheel, doing 80km/h. This is not good....
The uni was coming off the box spline! Been there more than a year though. true but at least im not gonna drive it on the road unlike the 90% of the suzis on here that aren't legal. anyway it may be against the rule to cut and weld a mild steel steering rod its not going to make it any weaker if done properly and the talk has been turned to making home made rag joints how can that be legal and any safer than a bit of chop chop? i thought your suzi was road registered??
hahahaha no way man that was a joke.
it was registered with those plates to my granddad about 7 years ago before he went to the suzi dealership in the sky. its been un registered for about 3 years now we just wanted to keep the plates so told the cops that we buried em with the old boy.
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Chopz
Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 544 Location: Perth
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ha ha ha nice one! 
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3459 Location: licking some windows
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any side wall from a tyre could be used as the steel belts are only in the tread. (of passenger tyres)
Since its on the farm maybe you could find an old tractor tyre ( old being rooted not being kept for a spare) and cut that up
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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conveyer belt material or does clark rubber sell cross ply rubber
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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sleeperzook wrote: lump_a_charcoal wrote: Know of any more cressida boxes anywhere? I've come across one other in the local wrecking yard, I'll be going there today or tomorrow, so I can have a look.
Please do, thanks.
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