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Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:41 am 
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Powertrax Lock Rite locker.
I'm told by many that the locker for Sierra front and Vitara front are interchangeable, yet the part numbers are different. Can anyone shed light on this for me?
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Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:25 pm 
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dimensionally they are the same, but some vits have 26 spline, and some sierras have a 4 pinion front.

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:28 pm 
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thanks joe :youdaman:

I best use a Sierra carrier in my diff if I want easier to get lock right.
Mine should be 22 spline, but I haven't checked

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:31 pm 
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what year model? if its pre 95 it should be 22.

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:32 pm 
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what year model? if its pre 95 it should be 22.


93 lwb efi

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:39 pm 
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more expensive choice, but a choice still

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ystem.html

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:02 pm 
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more expensive choice, but a choice still

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ystem.html


That's prrrdy.

I used a vit 26 spline front hemisphere & turned it into a sierra rear last week.. :P

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:17 am 
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more expensive choice, but a choice still

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ystem.html


Thats what I've got, yet to fit it though.

Cheaper buying it from Trail Tough directly:
http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?pag ... &Itemid=53

Linda who runs it has shit hot customer service. Highly recommended.

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:45 am 
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u can use a sierra rear hemishphere and get some 26 spline axel out of a 2l if u want

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:16 am 
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ninjamoses wrote:
christover1 wrote:
more expensive choice, but a choice still

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ystem.html


Thats what I've got, yet to fit it though.

Cheaper buying it from Trail Tough directly:
http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?pag ... &Itemid=53

Linda who runs it has shit hot customer service. Highly recommended.

Cool thats a good saving, assuming delivery isn't dearer.
Because I don't have a Sierra centre, using that is a good option. I assume they didn't want the core back.
What did it cost you total, and how long did delivery take?
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Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:33 am 
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$518 US for the front and rear lockers ($209 rear, $309 front).
$110.75 US for express international shipping.

And nah they said not to worry about sending my core back :)

The exchange rate at the time I bought em meant I got both front and rear landed for just under $700AU. Delivery was quick, only took a few days from memory.

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$518 US for the front and rear lockers ($209 rear, $309 front).
$110.75 US for express international shipping.

And nah they said not to worry about sending my core back :)

The exchange rate at the time I bought em meant I got both front and rear landed for just under $700AU. Delivery was quick, only took a few days from memory.


Thanks, I'm starting to lean in this direction.

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:10 am 
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Hey Chris, let me know when your doing your order, perhaps we can combine shipping. I too want a front locker and am selling my road tires to pay for it (I hope)

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:57 am 
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Hey Chris, let me know when your doing your order, perhaps we can combine shipping. I too want a front locker and am selling my road tires to pay for it (I hope)


I need to sell some stuff to pay for a locker, too.
If timing works out, group buy may help

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:55 am 
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I been playing with spare diff bits.
Found out the Vit pinion housing uses 2 locater bolts, that are too long for Sierra housing.
Just used two Sierra studs, think I should have room to fit diff under car.
I can't see any grinding needed if I use the Vitara carrier,
I'm assuming thats only needed when using a sierra carrier???
Not got a 1.3 to compare, see pix.

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:51 am 
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did you get another vitara housing or have you just pulled apart your perfectly good diff from your only running car for fun? 8O

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:57 am 
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did you get another vitara housing or have you just pulled apart your perfectly good diff from your only running car for fun? 8O


I scrounged up a spare, which is very cool, as now I can get everything right, before pulling out the working front diff. Though making a mount may be better with diff out of car.

I could drive the car with front diff out if needed, but will avoid that, as dont want crud getting into axle housing etc.

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:14 am 
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I need to learn to listen with my good ear, or at least with my brain switched on.
Its a bit of the steel Sierra diff that needs grinding, not the Vit alloy case :roll:
It became obvious after trying to insert assembly to measure for making a mount.
If I sell enough stuff this weekend, will wait for a locker before assembly.
If not will assemble with open alloy diff while I save.
PS Don't pull a Vitara front tailshaft out, without draining transfer case first...its not a Sierra...what a mess :oops:

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:57 pm 
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Christover, i'm not sure if you've seen these photo's around the traps but they might give you another idea. the "collar" would work better with the sierra carrier, where as the "strap" would work if you were running the vitara carrier.

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:05 pm 
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Thanks heaps, I have been looking for them pix.
That is the sort of thing I got in mind.

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:52 am 
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After mucking round for days, not really finding any set up that I liked, and making the sierra diff too thin at the point where it hits the crossmember, I have decided to wait for a full steel diff, so I am putting back the old alloy diff and will start saving for a steely and do it properly, and add a locker at same time.
I don't feel I've wasted my time, though, as I have learnt a lot about the Vit in this process, which will make it a smoother job when I do go steel, and is a bonus knowing the car when in the bush.
I managed to lean on the angle grinder while it was still turning :oops:

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:41 am 
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You gotta stop hurting yourself in the shed Chris!

My tires didn't sell so I'm not getting my locker this week either

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:52 am 
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You gotta stop hurting yourself in the shed Chris!

My tires didn't sell so I'm not getting my locker this week either

All the peeps that said they were coming to buy stuff on weekend never showed up, so my locker plans on hold too :(

close call, me very lucky

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:04 am 
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You gotta stop hurting yourself in the shed Chris!

My tires didn't sell so I'm not getting my locker this week either

All the peeps that said they were coming to buy stuff on weekend never showed up, so my locker plans on hold too :(

close call, me very lucky

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They may not have showed up but that's no reason to get depressed! 8O remember - down the road, not across the street :P

Spray it with WD, that fixes everything...

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:10 am 
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It does look like that doesn't it.......I will try to look at the positive side :)

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:56 am 
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8O :lol:
Your pretty lucky mate that could of been nasty

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:01 pm 
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8O :lol:
Your pretty lucky mate that could of been nasty

Yes, it gave me a scare.
Working too long in cold, damp and dark, stopped thinking for a second, thats all it takes.

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:26 pm 
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if you are not in a huge hurry....bring the diff over to me and i will machine you a collar like a mother 8O .......ummm........you would not believe... :wink:


oh...and atari....why is there a dodgy arsed weld blurred out in one of your pics?

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:42 pm 
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if you are not in a huge hurry....bring the diff over to me and i will machine you a collar like a mother 8O .......ummm........you would not believe... :wink:


Thanks Mate :youdaman: .. but I grinded too much off the diff, as well as my arm :)
Its a paper weight now.
I wasn't happy with alignment, it was hard up against the cross member.
Removing enough of the diff to have it sit true, made a hole in it :oops:
I had no intention of cutting or messing with the cross member, as its part of suspension.
I have a maybe xl7 front coming, so I will wait n see if it does eventuate.
May revisit the sierra idea if nothing happens.
Or collar and strap the alloy diff, to help stop explosion

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:48 pm 
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Xl7's are different to Gv. Hence different to Vit.

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