anyone got a pic of the inner/outer clips side by side? lil confuzed as to how they differ.. mayb my drover has been played with previously.. look to be an inner clip on mine but would love to confirm exactly what it is...
and shep.. good brain work
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| Author: | squirezook [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
I have a 85 drover tin top ute. Is that same as NT? ie difs springs transfer IF so are wt springs same as nt ones? Did a search for a post that listed the differences between nt and wt but too many results. May be a sticky is in order?? thanks |
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| Author: | 31zook [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
WT and NT and use the same springs. Is that what you were asking? |
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| Author: | squirezook [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
31zook wrote: WT and NT and use the same springs.
Is that what you were asking? You cleared up a small piece of the question Thanks. 85 drover ute: ? same rear springs as swb nt wt? transfer flanges & ratio ? dif flanges & ratio? Brakes ? tail sharfts jack sharft? ..anything else? |
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| Author: | eldo [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
pretty sure the lwb and utes use a slightly heaver rear spring, but they are interchangeable |
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| Author: | 31zook [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
1 and 1.3 do not mix at all. flanges and splines.... |
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| Author: | 303zuke [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
The Drover is just a badge engineered 1.3 Sierra. The only differences are the headlights and grille and the badges/decals, all other parts are standard Sierra SJ413 (aka 1.3lt Sierra, aka SJ50 NT) |
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| Author: | squirezook [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
303zuke wrote: The Drover is just a badge engineered 1.3 Sierra. The only differences are the headlights and grille and the badges/decals, all other parts are standard Sierra SJ413 (aka 1.3lt Sierra, aka SJ50 NT)
Thanks for that! so it is a rebadged NT ute. That clears that up. nice one 303 zuke Now I just have to get my head around NT WT compatibility and have some fun. Got a spare WT swb siting here for parts. Thanks again |
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| Author: | SuziBlu [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
Drovers use a different universal joint than that of a sierra. Sierra uni Joint is a TOYO part # RUJ 1795 Drover Uni Joint is a TOYO part # 902018 They are different. |
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| Author: | squirezook [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
SuziBlu wrote: Drovers use a different universal joint than that of a sierra.
Sierra uni Joint is a TOYO part # RUJ 1795 Drover Uni Joint is a TOYO part # 902018 They are different. Thanks for that one have writen it down for future ref. |
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| Author: | SuziBlu [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
lol hope so, I bought sierra unis, they are sort of ok to use in an emergency, but they have an inner circlip, and the drovers have an outer circlip. Took me ages and ages to find the right ones. |
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| Author: | foolsp33d [ Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
anyone got a pic of the inner/outer clips side by side? lil confuzed as to how they differ.. mayb my drover has been played with previously.. look to be an inner clip on mine but would love to confirm exactly what it is... and shep.. good brain work
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| Author: | want33s [ Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
Drovers have NO tacho either. Instrument cluster is different. |
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| Author: | foolsp33d [ Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
lol, wrong thread about the differences want eh you got lotsa zooks.. go get a pic of the two kinds of uni for me.. inner and outer clip so can see what this actual difference is pls!?
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| Author: | want33s [ Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
foolsp33d wrote: lol, wrong thread about the differences want
eh you got lotsa zooks.. go get a pic of the two kinds of uni for me.. inner and outer clip so can see what this actual difference is pls!?Will get some pics in the morning.. 
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| Author: | foolsp33d [ Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
cheers bloke! will sink a Jack can for ya 
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| Author: | want33s [ Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
How was that Jack Bryan? NT jackshaft..... External clips.. 
WT front shaft.... External clips.. 
Drover rear shaft.... External clips.. 
I don't know what the deal is with these things but I have WT, NT AND Drover here and they all have the same style of uni fitted. |
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| Author: | foolsp33d [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
Jack was great had more than one for ya fella
My jack shaft has a heap of wear where the red circle is, so I pulled out the spares box and found the WT one I stripped down.. going to take it down to a driveshaft place and just get em to match it up with the required uni, cbf stuffin round with it to be honest.. make it someone else's problem.. 
Is it possible to get the worn hole fixed or its pretty much binnable now? i woulda used the WT shaft in its complete form, but the Xfer end is obviously set up with the smaller flange.. Bloody suzuki sizing! lol.. |
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| Author: | want33s [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
foolsp33d wrote: My jack shaft has a heap of wear where the red circle is.......... Is it possible to get the worn hole fixed or its pretty much binnable now? i woulda used the WT shaft in its complete form, but the Xfer end is obviously set up with the smaller flange.. Bloody suzuki sizing! lol.. It is possible to build up a worn ear on a yoke but not financially viable on a zook. Flanges are easily swapped between NT and WT ... All you need is 2 uni's.. Use the uni to suit the shaft and then use the caps off the other to suit the flange. 1.3 caps are all 25mm and trunion shafts are all same so they swap about easily... I don't know about 1.0 stuff. Internal clips = RUJ 1795 External clips = RUJ 1783 |
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| Author: | foolsp33d [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
ahh your a champion 33
got a complete set of WT NT and 1.0's so somethin is bound to work! NT Flange(female bit:lol:)from g/box|-- :Jackshaft from WT== :flange from NT to xfer =| so.. |--===| lol.. but im thinkin its going to require both inner and outer clips not 100% but thats what im guesstimating.. |
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| Author: | squirezook [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 85 Holden Drover Parts compatibility NT? WT? |
My drover lwb has external clips as well. Smaller bolt holes so am going to swap some bits over to put the wt diffs in. Using wt transfer so will use wt flanges and hopefully the joints can be swapped as suggested then the 0nly original bit will be the rear nt lwb shaft. |
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