[seen]

hey
i hav 215 tires n i hate low range as i keep using my clutch n burning them out. my car is my daily driver and i am wondering if a set of diff gears would make a difference and how much of a difference would i see on road or would i be better with so transfer gears or something
any help thanks

[S13RR4]

does low range burn clutch even if your not using clutch so to speak???

rephrase: when im in low range i usually just crawl around in first or second cause im not that hard core and do pussy tracks so not much need for clutch work, is this burning my clutch or....

[S13RR4]

ps i have no idea about your dilema sorry, just thought i jump on board the quest for knowledge about gears and clutch and shit...

[steak_knife]

S13RR4 wrote:

ps i have no idea about your dilema sorry, just thought i jump on board the quest for knowledge about gears and clutch and shit...

If ya not using the clutch your fine..

seen, what are you doing to burn them out??

[zukenutter]

Seen, as the other guys mention you should be staying off your clutch when in low range. There are techniques for doing this which can be learnt on a professional 4WD training course or even some clubs have driver training.

215s shouldn't give you any problems when in low range.

Lower gearing is definitely going to be beneficial but proper technique will cost a whole lot less.

[seen]

yeh i no but when i am in lowrange and goin over rocks n stuff i cant crawl the car stales and the only way to crawl is to use my clutch

[zukenutter]

Don't touch that clutch.
Honestly it's the exact opposite thing you should be doing. You need to learn where the stall point is and how much throttle to apply to gently lift the wee beasty over the next rock. If your tyres are aired down enough you should not be bouncing around. Plus airing down lowers your gearing. You are much better off letting it stall and re-starting as opposed to continually popping the clutch.

This is impossible to explain properly in writing. When I first starting 4WDing, a long time ago, I joined the Suzuki 4WD Club of NSW. Before accepting you as a member you had to do their driver training day. The techniques I learnt there have served me very well. I always drive using what they taught me.

I've always had Zukes with up to 29" tyres without swapping gears and have never even come close to frying a clutch using correct technique.

[want33s]

seen wrote:

yeh i no but when i am in lowrange and goin over rocks n stuff i cant crawl the car stales and the only way to crawl is to use my clutch

There is a HUGE difference between 'using' the clutch and 'abusing' it.

Find someone with offroad experience to teach you. As Zukenutter said above "You need to learn where the stall point is and how much throttle to apply to gently lift the wee beasty over the next rock. If your tyres are aired down enough you should not be bouncing around. Plus airing down lowers your gearing."
The whole idea of low range is to make life easier on the clutch. You should almost treat it like a light switch.... Either on or off.... Anything inbetween creates heat rapidly and severely affects the life span of the unit.

[steak_knife]

I was taught by a cow boy of the larger persuasion, if I touched the clutch he punched me in the leg, worked a treat!!!!!

[zukenutter]

steknig wrote:

I was taught by a cow boy of the larger persuasion, if I touched the clutch he punched me in the leg, worked a treat!!!!!

I like that

[steak_knife]

zukenutter wrote:

steknig wrote:

I was taught by a cow boy of the larger persuasion, if I touched the clutch he punched me in the leg, worked a treat!!!!!

I like that

It`s all good now, fuck`n hurt at the time, even on road I don`t touch it.

[zukenutter]

steknig wrote:

zukenutter wrote:

steknig wrote:

I was taught by a cow boy of the larger persuasion, if I touched the clutch he punched me in the leg, worked a treat!!!!!

I like that

It`s all good now, fuck`n hurt at the time, even on road I don`t touch it.

I still practice stall tech in traffic.

[zukenutter]

Other techniques you'll learn from a trainer are "Key starts" which will also save your clutch, and proper "Hill starts".

[steak_knife]

I`ve driven a dodge truck with a crash box, no clutch ( cable snapped) & 3 pump brake`s from Toowomba to bris, Key start at lights & hope no bugger pull`s out in front of ya!!!!

That was 89 tho, bugger all traffic then, road were up the shit tho..

[zukenutter]

Amazing how far you can get without a clutch

[steak_knife]

zukenutter wrote:

Amazing how far you can get without a clutch

Hell yer, look at all the auto driver`s!!

[zukenutter]

What ever happened to getting a manual license

[steak_knife]

Start a thingy in chat & see!

[JrZook]

seen wrote:

hey
i hav 215 tires n i hate low range as i keep using my clutch n burning them out. my car is my daily driver and i am wondering if a set of diff gears would make a difference and how much of a difference would i see on road or would i be better with so transfer gears or something
any help thanks

So what are you driving? I assume a sierra, if so what year model? When I first got into the sceen i ran an 85 drover with 215 all terrains. Had no real dramas with clutch control in sticky offroad situations. Then again this was an NT with 3.9 diff gears, hence the overall gearing was slightly lower than the WT running 3.7s. I drove this for a year or so until a 1 liter tcase was dropped it. Made a real difference with the 215's, was like i was half a gear lower in low range. This was a very good simple and cheap combo. After that for a few years I upgraded tyres to 235's, still was very drivable with this combo. Then i managed to score a very cheap set of 4:1 tcase gears. This made crawling and engine braking down steep descents awesome!!

Id probabily put forward the options of either changing in a 1 liter case, if you are going to stay with the same size tyres or save up for a set of 4:1 tcase gears. The only diff gears that will help you in this case would be 3.9s that is assuming u have an WT sierra with std 3.7s.

My 3c
Dan

[seen]

i hav a wide track

[seen]

i hav a wide track