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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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does anyone know where ot get them for sierra? standared rotors now have a big gouge out of them from mud and causing the car to ver to the right when braking.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:51 pm |
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There is a thread in ere about vit vented rotors & calipers for sierra upgrade
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:23 pm |
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Direct fit?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:47 pm |
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CairnsZook has done it, check his build up.
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
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 Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:56 pm |
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Yeah, pretty much a direct fit, as long as you use Vit calipers too.
Rotors are not slotted or drilled, they are still "smooth" like the sierra ones, but they are ventilated.
You may just be able to get your existing rotors machined.
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zooker

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Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 596 Location: Queanbeyan
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I've done the vitara brake upgrade. It is awesome to say the least  Well worth it.
You need the front calipers and rotors off a LWB vitara estate. You only need to trim the brake rotor backing plate a bit because the vit calipers are larger. Other than that they are a straight bolt on
I'd suggest getting the calipers reco'd and just buying brand new rotors.
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:10 am |
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I was hoping to get some drilled ones so the mud doesn't gouge out the rotor
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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zooker wrote: I'd suggest getting the calipers reco'd and just buying brand new rotors.
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Slotted rotors make a big difference in braking performance and if you have the spare coin go for it but Don't get cross drilled rotors. They won't last as long because they develop hairline cracks on the outer edges of the holes which eventuates with a cracked disc, Very common sight on the racetrack, They are especially prone to cracking when you hit water, mud etc. Also I'm quite sure they can't be machined where as the slotted rotors still can.
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:31 am |
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so just plain slotted are the go. Do they make them to suit sierra? Or vitara
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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buzbox wrote: Also I'm quite sure they can't be machined where as the slotted rotors still can.
They can, they just use a different machining tip (and charge you accordingly)
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:12 pm |
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brendan wrote: so just plain slotted are the go. Do they make them to suit sierra? Or vitara
DBA Make them for all cars.
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:46 pm |
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your right. i had a look of DBA web site. am i better off swapping to vitara brakes with sloted rotors?
i just had a look at the specs for the vitara and sierra rotors.
VITARA 4 door estate LWB (91-98 )
Front Disc Diameter Height Thickness Min. Thickness Center Hole Bolt Holes
mm 287 46 17 15 107 5
sierra sj70
Front Disc Diameter Height Thickness Min. Thickness Center Hole Bolt Holes
mm 290 46.5 10 8.5 107 5
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:14 pm |
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All you'll need are the calipers to do the vitara conversion, so thats another $50 or so.
After replacing the brakes in my Vit, I kinda wish I went slotted. Maybe because I've used them in my previous cars and I can notice the difference. Changing the 20 year old brake lines would also make the pedal feel less spongey.
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:58 pm |
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would i be better of using the vit rotors too because they are thicker? or just get some sloted sierra ones?
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:21 pm |
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In my opinion, I think you should just get replacement slotted rotors and decent pads. It's the cheaper option, They'll do what you want them to do, clear dirt off the face and generally improve braking.
If you use Vit calipers, of course you have to use vit rotors and pads. My previous car's that I done brake conversions on, I've had to replace the brake lines and the master cylinder. I'm not sure if it's the same deal with the zooks.
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zooker

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Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 596 Location: Queanbeyan
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brendan wrote: I was hoping to get some drilled ones so the mud doesn't gouge out the rotor
Simple solution... Steer clear of mud
It generally stuffs more than just brakes 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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buzbox wrote: In my opinion, I think you should just get replacement slotted rotors and decent pads. It's the cheaper option, They'll do what you want them to do, clear dirt off the face and generally improve braking.
If you use Vit calipers, of course you have to use vit rotors and pads. My previous car's that I done brake conversions on, I've had to replace the brake lines and the master cylinder. I'm not sure if it's the same deal with the zooks.
Swift master, regardless of upgrade makes a huge difference.
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:32 am |
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Yer I'm not a fan of mud or water but somtimes it's unavoidable
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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and fun..
After getting out of mud, give the brakes a few stabs to make sure the pressure is still there.
Just another little trick from the race track that I apply to everyday driving, when your pulling up to a set of lights, just brake slightly, let go and re-apply the brakes, notice how the pedal is firmer.
Also a good idea to do that before going down a steep hill or towing.
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Hybrid

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Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1095 Location: Bulimba, Brisbane
Vehicle: '92 Sierra
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I just make sure I start braking far enough away from lights 
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:54 pm |
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yup i know the double brake tap. Why does it do that? Might ring the wreckers today see if they got any lwb vit calipers.then il track down some slotted vit rotors
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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brendan wrote: yup i know the double brake tap. Why does it do that?
Less air in the brake booster makes for a harder pedal
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:53 pm |
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IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM
Like that!! peaceout
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:57 pm |
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steknig wrote: IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM
Like that!! peaceout
it's true though
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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brendan wrote: steknig wrote: IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM
Like that!! peaceout it's true though
Could be out of fuel!!!
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:11 pm |
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ok this si happening. im tracking down some vit calipers. if i use vit calipers do i have to use the vit rotors too?
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zooker

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Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 596 Location: Queanbeyan
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 Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:49 pm |
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brendan wrote: ok this si happening. im tracking down some vit calipers. if i use vit calipers do i have to use the vit rotors too?
Yep. They are vented and thicker than sierra ones
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:09 pm |
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yer. im going to buy the sloted vit rotors from DBA. just finding calipers is the hard part
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:51 pm |
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Cant be that hard. Suzi 4 will have them for sure.
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zooker

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Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 596 Location: Queanbeyan
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 Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:48 pm |
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Yep thats where I got mine from. Cant remember exact price but I was able to get 2x vit calipers, get them fully reco'd by a brake place, get brand new rotors and pads, all for about $450 all up 
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