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Author:  zukenutter [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:35 pm ]
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I really need to add some "proper" tow hooks to my Jimny. I have a hook for the front but not very happy with the location. The plastic bumpers get in the way of mounting them in out of harms way locations.

If any Jimny owners have creative well placed recovery points I'd like to see some pics.
Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:59 pm ]
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could you do something similar to this?

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic183 ... highlight=
Author:  Benz [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:54 pm ]
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i also am looking at recovery points.
cant go to that link because i dont have a outer limits log in and cant be bothered making one but i have seen some one cut a slot out of the back bumper to fit a recovery point. looked very neat and tidy. that's what i think i will do. getting a bull bar for the front =]
Author:  zukenutter [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:32 pm ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
could you do something similar to this?

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic183 ... highlight=


While looking at mine to possibly try something like this I realised that the standard "Tie down" is acually quite heavy duty 4mm plate and welded to the chassis along both sides of its' full length. I have some hooks ready to go on but don't think I'll bother. They can go on the trailer instead.

Still keen to see any other Jimny recovery point examples though.
Author:  monley [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:58 am ]
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:helloo:

After i had to do a recovery to day on a nissan :lol: i wasn't sure where i could recover off, i had a bow shackle, but the bolt did not won't to got thou the slot, on the back tie down points. So with a assistants of some tools i got the bolt though. Then i thought maybe it was time for some proper points, but not sure where they could go or what i could use.

The only thing i have found are these http://www.bigjimny.com/store/index.php ... /p_13.html But still not a big fan of the if i have to cut of the tie down points.

Anyway after taking a closer look at the tie down point, i realized it is rather soildish point. So what i wanted to know

A) Do i buy one of those points from big jimny or

B) Make the slot bigger of the tie down point so i can get the bolt though for the bow shackle and hope for the best?
Author:  steak_knife [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:15 am ]
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monkey wrote:
:helloo:

http://www.bigjimny.com/store/index.php ... parts/off-


where does that go???? :?
Author:  monley [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:28 am ]
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steak_knife wrote:
monkey wrote:
:helloo:

http://www.bigjimny.com/store/index.php ... parts/off-


where does that go???? :?


I'm not sure, they also have different tie down points on the front of there jimny's...
Author:  steak_knife [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:29 am ]
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I wouldn't like to recover with it..
Author:  monley [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:31 am ]
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Yeh that's why i haven't brought one. not sure how strong it would be.

Stekky what do you think about using the rear tie down points?

Strong engouh?
Author:  dm90 [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:48 pm ]
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i used to take the tow ball out of mine and put a big shackle through the hole in the 'tongue'??? part.

and just use the points on the ARB bar
Author:  zukenutter [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:13 pm ]
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dm90 wrote:
i used to take the tow ball out of mine and put a big shackle through the hole in the 'tongue'??? part.


x2 Now I have a Hayman Reece tow bar so I just use the tongue sleeve and pin

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Author:  squizzytaylor [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:33 pm ]
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Here's what I did, the steel I used is 75x50x8mm from memory and is wrapped both sides of the chassis and crush tubed, I have also put a plate in the bottom side of the chassis rail, the outer plate also runs forward of the cross tube.
Had it checked out by local engineer to be safe who was more than happy with it from both a strength and friendliness to the chassis point of view.
On the front I have bolted a hook the same as this one to the existing tow point but closer to the chassis and plated across the rear side.



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Author:  watermouse [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:48 pm ]
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Above^^

thats a much better solution but why not weld a ~250mm long plate, 10mm thick x 75mm tall with a ~16mm hole in the recovery end, to the bracket that bolts onto the chassis. Run that through a 75mmx10mm slot in the bumper (where your hook is) so you dont have a big hole.

Not having a go, i have done the same as above on the front of mine but its not quite as obvious as a gaping hole in the rear bumper.
Author:  smiffkid [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:36 pm ]
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if u have them on the front the recommend not snatching heavy vehicles out, because a jimny only has a little front diff, and the force of it all can cause them to go bang,
im proberly just gonna get some steel plates to bolt where my towbar is and put the hooks off that, usually i just use a tree trunk protector around my tow bar and snatch off that
Author:  squizzytaylor [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:50 pm ]
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watermouse wrote:
Above^^

thats a much better solution but why not weld a ~250mm long plate, 10mm thick x 75mm tall with a ~16mm hole in the recovery end, to the bracket that bolts onto the chassis. Run that through a 75mmx10mm slot in the bumper (where your hook is) so you dont have a big hole.

Not having a go, i have done the same as above on the front of mine but its not quite as obvious as a gaping hole in the rear bumper.


Funny that, most that have seen this set up reckon the hole is kinda cool, but in answer to the question, I'm stuffed if I'm welding any thing anywhere near the chassis, I may in the near future fit a towbar, so being able to get rid of it all is also a consideration. Also the hook position is very low so it doesn't stick out unless you get right down.

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Author:  monley [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:56 am ]
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I have just made the rear tie down point slots bigger so i can get a shackle bolt though. That will do until they bend or brake.
Author:  Gizmo3332 [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:13 pm ]
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Ive mounted 2 black rat tow hooks to the front of my jimny, i have mounted them to the chassis, and then cut 2 holes in the black plastic bar, i havent had to use them yet, but they feel strong.

Will put pics up tonight.
Author:  zuk85 [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:21 pm ]
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monkey wrote:
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I have just made the rear tie down point slots bigger so i can get a shackle bolt though. That will do until they bend or brake.


man if you were stuck in a bog and asked me to pull you out off that, i would just drive off and leave you aye :crazy: that so dangerous please dont tell me u actaully snatch off that 8O only slight slow pulling i hope :cry:
Author:  Moag [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:26 pm ]
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Sorry Monkey but x2 on this one.
You will kill someone!!! and more then likely one of your mates.

The other year up here, a 14 year old girl died from an ill conceived recovery point like this.

Make it strong and treat it like a loaded gun mate - ie bystanders need to be well clear and think ricocheting as well.

You may already know this but others may not ay!

Edit: this is what it looks like when the strap breaks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4heELj8wcLM
now add lump of metal on end, like unrated bull bar or recovery point!! :blink:
Author:  303zuke [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:49 pm ]
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APIO in Japan do some well engineered mounts for the Jimny. Some are designed for stock bumpers and some are made for high clearance replacement bumpers, but all look solid. Made from 9mm or 6mm plate depending on the version.

Some peeps might issues with ordering stuff out of Japan due to nuclear issues at the moment, but I say bah! Do it!
Author:  Ben_Sierra [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:15 am ]
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Fucking hell monkey, I'm never going on a trip with you... I don't fancy being decapitated by an out of control snatch strap...
Author:  shakes [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:49 am ]
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Moag wrote:
Sorry Monkey but x2 on this one.
You will kill someone!!! and more then likely one of your mates.

The other year up here, a 14 year old girl died from an ill conceived recovery point like this.

Make it strong and treat it like a loaded gun mate - ie bystanders need to be well clear and think ricocheting as well.

You may already know this but others may not ay!

Edit: this is what it looks like when the strap breaks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4heELj8wcLM
now add lump of metal on end, like unrated bull bar or recovery point!! :blink:


that was at a mud run/arena style comp yea? my folks were in town when that happened and the old man grilled me on recovery's

SquizzyTaylors looks to be a damn good solution without major mod's. And it's almost preferable to welding, It's amost completly reversable. DOT isn't going to have a hissy fit over it and most people out there that think they can weld really only know enough to get themselves into trouble, myself included.
Author:  Moag [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:25 am ]
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That's the one shakes,

big family day out having fun!!!

Shook Kununurra to the core for awhile and still does for those that were there or knew her or her family.

Please learn to recognise good rated recovery points /gear before you snatch anything and get every one well and i mean well and truly out of the way including to the side.
Author:  Paulw [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:40 pm ]
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Just wondering if this recovery point passenger side front on newer jimny's is good to do recoveries from??

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Author:  got_bar_work [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:55 pm ]
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Not a chance
Its a tie down point not a recovery point
Author:  Paulw [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:31 pm ]
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Just wondering why this one is different to the other three, thought might have been upgraded for this reason to do recoveries from?
Author:  Moag [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:44 pm ]
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No, just what is found on the new model jimny's it is still just a tie down point, never use this as a recovery point. Spend the money and get rated ones made by someone that knows how to.
Be safe..
Author:  zukenutter [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:02 pm ]
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They changed this tie down because the previous style, and the one on the driver side, do not protrude below the front bumper of later models because the bumper is 2 inches lower than the early model Jimnys.
Author:  BertZook [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:11 pm ]
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ok so looking into these jap options

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or this one to be use with factory bumper

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what you guys think.... it is a tick material 6mm steel... my only concern is apart from what I think is a tube that goes inside the whole in the chasis, the other points to attach it to the car are bolts into the tie down points...

at 50-ish dollars is not a bad price... question is how much for postage... but yeh is not bad having it bolted into the tie down points?...or having that tube into the chassis is enough?
Author:  jdk81 [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:26 pm ]
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Shape and profile like that, out of 6mm it will bend easily, and generate quite a significant load on the few bolts, probably damaging the chassis.
I don't know the chassis profile or thickness where it bolts in, but I wouldn't fork out cash for it.
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