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Author:  Fatzook [ Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

Hi all.

Hoping someone has a similar set up and can help me out.

Vitara with calmini 3" suspension kit, including Lower arms. No body lift....

How much bump stop spacing will I need to stop a 235/85 R16 from killing itself on my guards? Front only.

This is a temporary measure until I can do a virtual lift.

Firewall and back of guards, as well as headlight buckets have been trimmed to within an inch of their lives already.

Running XL7 rims.

Cheers.

Author:  Fatzook [ Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

Worth adding... suspension is apart already, so a flex test is a little difficult.

Author:  p0isonra1n [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

In mine with no body lift on 31s I had 50mm bump stop spacers and even then I could get the tyre to hit the the guard and all the weight was on that wheel.

Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

Yeah ok.

Cant have had much usable up travel. Ill start at 50mm and add what I need from there.

Cheers

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

50mm at the bump will be 100mm at the wheel. A stock vitara barely has 50mm between the bump and the a arm.

Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

How much of the overall length of the oem rubber bump stop actually compresses under heavy load?

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

I’d work on 50%

Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

Working on that.... 65mm spacer is needed.

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

CJ ran a vitara calmini kit with 7.50’s on steel 2.0/V6 vitara rims, no BL, and had no/minimal tyre contact. That’s about as much help as I can offer.

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Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

If it ran bumpstop spacing at all in the front it was only the XL-7 shim.

Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

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Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

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This is almost full extension. Maybe 5 or 10mm left in it.

About 165mm total travel left. I can live with that for now.

Id wager I would have needed an extension anyway as I reckon those calmini springs would bind before touching the oem bumps

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

Yes, I’d agree with that- I believe the coils bind at full compression. I think the wider track of the 2.0 litre car along with the XL-7 rims are complicating things as they tyre can’t tuck inside the guard.

Author:  alien [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

Check Shandy92's build thread?? He was running 31s with some franken-lift, but there might be some info there, even if just in images?

Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Save me some time... Vitara suspension setup

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Not pleased that I'm reducing travel, but here's what a 65mm spacer looks like.

Hoping to get this down to 25mm or so after a virtual lift in the future.

Steve- agree about the extra width giving me clearance issues.

Alien- ill check it out. Thanks.

At this stage I think the only cure would be smaller tyres or less panels.

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