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Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:56 am 
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so i was going through the haynes service manual for my sj70 and there are a few things it recommends replacing at certain intervals that i can almost garentee havent been done and wanted some advice on weather i should do these things or not. Or particular signs to look for on them to see if they need replacing

(the clock says 330,000 almost - ill be aiming for a big service then. The previous owners lived in wagga, an older couple, and told me they used to tow it behind the carivan and so did the people before them who i think he said were the orginal owners and the speedo was not disconnected hence the high kms, god knows how much truth is actually in that story but it was a good sale point on their behalf hah)

I have had the car approx 30,000kms, 2 years, have done regular normal services,
And also have had the following done:
-rear break shoe (L&R)
-Rear break wheel cylinders (L&R)
-Break Fluid
-Rear uni joint
-Front and Rear Wheel bearing 'kits' and Wheel Bearing lubricant
-Rear Axle Oil Seals
-Timing belt
-fuel Pump gasket
-temperature sender
-thermostat
-dizzy cap
-Rotor button
-radiator
-clutch
-water pump
-Gear oil
-Head reconditioned
-New manifold, with new 2inch exhaust, new muffler with cat removed
-alternator reconditioned with new bushes i think he called it, cant quite rememember, it died and i so got it reconditioned hah

Most of this work was done in conjuction with putting a recondtioned motor in (as the old one was reconditioned, re-honed, but that mechanic royally F**ked up, piston rings on backwards :finger: , they broke throwing oil out the exhaust, engine siezed and basically threw away, currently looking for an engineer to back up the fair trading mechanics statement and he will sued for all that work plus the new work once we find someone.

There is a shuddering issue that has been noticed, have checked all i could but she will being going to see a mechanic next week and thought i may as well get him to check a few things that, according to the manual, should have been done a long time ago!
so i need a little advice on whether these things should actually be bothered with or not


so the things it says should have been done more the once by now,
-under hood hose replacement- they say to replace only when needed, but as some may be 20years old would a -just incase replacement be in need?
-Dif oil- has not been done since ive had the car
-transfer case lubricant/oil - has not been done since ive had the car
-steering knuckle oil seal replacement - has not been done since ive had the car
-spark plug leads, apparently unless they come with the dizy cap havent been done
-thermostatically controlled air cleaner (TCAC) check
-fuel filter - has not been done since ive had the car but am planning to with the service
-EGR valve replacement
-positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) valve
-evaporative emissions contril system check and charcoal canister replacement
-oxygen sensor replacement
-carby reco/check-- would this be easier to get a trustworthy opinion from a mechanic or is there certain things to look for

also will be upgrading the suspension to OME 2inch lift as the front leaf's are 180degrees flat!

i am relatively new to zooking and this is my first 4x4, i am keen to get under and get dirty and with the help of the boyfriend and dad im sure we could manage most things i listed as according to the manual they dont look crazy hard.

Any thing else that i should be getting the condition of checked or consider replacing would be lovely- apart from the shuddering she runs pretty well, very noisey but that is expected although havent driven another sierra so i have nothing to compare too

currently im at uni in armidale so doing all this is a little tricky as i have to wait for weekends off and head to glen and make a mess at the boyfriends house there but ill be going home soon and they she can sit for a few days while i work on her

thanks in advance!!! :mrgreen:[*]

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:12 pm 
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Factory service manual.

look for it here.

http://www.suzukiinfo.com

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:02 pm 
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I'm guessing Marco didn't read the post and just replied to the title.

That's a long post, I think your asking a question here:

"Any thing else that i should be getting the condition of checked or consider replacing would be lovely- apart from the shuddering she runs pretty well, very noisey but that is expected although havent driven another sierra so i have nothing to compare too"

but the grammar police wont let me answer it, because it reads like a statement.


Seriously though;

It sounds like you and your boys are on top of what needs to be done as far as servicing it.
Do change the fuel filter and all the oils and fluids, that way you know when they were done. if the water pipes have any cracks in the replace them.

Start a build thread and put up some Pics!

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:36 pm 
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The first thing you should do is throw that horrible Haynes manual away. They are the scourge of the earth. Use the FSM only.

Now, as for the list you wrote:

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-under hood hose replacement- they say to replace only when needed, but as some may be 20years old would a -just incase replacement be in need?


Replace as needed - Can't see any reason to change them pre-emptively. If one fails it's a good idea to do them all, but I don't see hose failures.

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-Dif oil- has not been done since I've had the car


Yep, good time to do it, and fit diff breathers whilst you're at it.

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-transfer case lubricant/oil - has not been done since I've had the car


As above

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-steering knuckle oil seal replacement - has not been done since I've had the car


Meh - I'd do them if there's significant grease escape from around the seals (not an oily film - that's normal)

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-spark plug leads, apparently unless they come with the dizy cap haven't been done


Yep, I'd do them. You'll be surprised how the drivability will improve,

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-thermostatically controlled air cleaner (TCAC) check


I'd glue it shut or remove it entirely. Pointless in our climate.

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-fuel filter - has not been done since I've had the car but am planning to with the service


Yep, I'd do that

-EGR valve replacement

It's an emissions device and you won't notice if it's working or not. Most (all?) extractors remove EGR entirely. Read into that what you will.

-positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) valve

Give it a clean out

-evaporative emissions control system check and charcoal canister replacement

Meh. If the hoses are in reasonable condition and the charcoal canister isn't plugged it's all good.

-oxygen sensor replacement

Best of luck finding one. :D There's the Haynes manual for you.

-carby reco/check-- would this be easier to get a trustworthy opinion from a mechanic or is there certain things to look for

If it's running fine leave it alone. Pulling the carb down is like getting the engine rebuilt - all good until you rebuild it then it needs constant attention.

Just my 2C.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:59 pm 
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http://www.4x4.in.th/manual_sj413/

you're welcome.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:25 pm 
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neofitou wrote:
I'm guessing Marco didn't read the post and just replied to the title.



Kind of :oops: I answered it as I was supposed to be walking out the door.

I thought stating the only manual to use would be a start, considering no one had answered yet.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:10 pm 
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Alright cheers guys! Great help!

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:00 am 
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Marko_SJ wrote:
Factory service manual.

look for it here.

http://www.suzukiinfo.com


i can only see 1986-1988, 1988 and 1987 factory service manuals for samurai, mine is a 1994, which one should i be looking in?

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:44 am 
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jazzziiiblack wrote:
Marko_SJ wrote:
Factory service manual.

look for it here.

http://www.suzukiinfo.com


i can only see 1986-1988, 1988 and 1987 factory service manuals for samurai, mine is a 1994, which one should i be looking in?


Its there, you have to stuff around following links till you see "SJ413 Service manual".

Thats where I downloaded it from, and so far its been 10 billion times better than the gregories.

Edit: use 1988 and up iff possible, but any 413 manual should work.

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:44 am 
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if you opened up the link I posted there is zero stuffing around.

And its to suit aisin carbs..

as long as its sj413 you're fine.

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:25 pm 
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okay ive just not heard sj413 used before

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:58 pm 
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thats the prefix for the model, like vitara is SE416,SV420,SV625, grandy being SQ620,625,627

4 cyl 1.3 is what 413 means.. 410 being one litre. so obvious what 625 ect means.

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:35 pm 
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okay thanks! makes sense now thanks! :)

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