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Author:  killa85 [ Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:09 pm ]
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Hi I just recently brought a 94 vitara with g16a motor (carby) im thinking of supercharging for some more power or ive heard the swift gti heads can bolt onto them anyone done any of these options and if you've done the supercharger what mods need to be done to the motor to handle up to 8pound boost
Author:  shiv [ Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:39 pm ]
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Try the search fuction first. This is a popular question
Author:  bristlenose2008 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:17 pm ]
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i have collected plenty of photos over the years so that I can supercharge my own G16B EFI. What put me off doing it has been the manufacturing of a mount, and figuring out how to best fit the belt tensioner, whilst retaining the Air conditioner compressor and power steering pump.

I'll dig these up for you soon.
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:46 pm ]
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I would have thought that was the easy bit compared to the engine management.

Steve.
Author:  bristlenose2008 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:59 pm ]
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Gwagensteve wrote:
I would have thought that was the easy bit compared to the engine management.

Steve.


Hi Steve, I was going to outsource the work on the engine management side of things, hence it would have been easy for me. The brackets i was going to make up, hence it was difficult.

Fitting a Haltec Sprint 500 ECU, rising rate fuel regulator, a 2 bar MAP sensor would have cost nearly $1300 without tuning. Tuning thou was going to cost only about $150 , which is an area that you save with in comparison to fitting a turbo. Turbos must be harder to get right.

Here are some pictures anyway of a carbi model......(you may need to re-jett your carburetor)
Author:  bristlenose2008 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:01 pm ]
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this one was using an SC14 i think, I was using an AMR500 by Aisin
Author:  droverdave [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:26 pm ]
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I really dont like the idea of have any sort of forced induction with a carburetta.

With forced induction i think its best to inject the exploding material, as late as possible into the system. ie. a fuel injector injecting 2inches from the intake valve! so it has no chance to explode in my face!
Author:  sideways [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:41 pm ]
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Derp.
Author:  JrZook [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:21 pm ]
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sideways wrote:
An AMR500 is to small for a 1.6l engine. You'd have to spin it at 4 times the engine RPM just to get a few PSI out of it.


At a blower speed of 2xCrank, engine capacity of 1.6L and VE of ~70% I calculated around 7-8psi of boost. AMR500 max RPM is something like ~16000RPM so that will limit your revs to 8k which should be more then enough.
Author:  sideways [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:27 pm ]
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Fuck. I derped and didn't account for the 4 stroke cycle, thanks for the correction Jr. :oops:
Author:  atari4x4 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:33 pm ]
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you noobs forgetting the AMR500 charged sierra that traveled 1/2 around oz? :?
Author:  tanshi [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:43 pm ]
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was efi though wasnt it?
Author:  atari4x4 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:44 pm ]
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lol, didn't read that bit. :oops:

why even bother with a carby FFS, but still shows that the AMR500 is up to the task. :deadhorse:
Author:  JrZook [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:18 pm ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
lol, didn't read that bit. :oops:

why even bother with a carby FFS, but still shows that the AMR300 is up to the task. :deadhorse:


If you were taking about brenno's hardtop
Author:  atari4x4 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:21 pm ]
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yeah the one brenno built & superduki took on his mainland adventure... so the AMR500 would be even less stressed than the AMR300?
Author:  sideways [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:08 pm ]
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AMR300 = 300cc of air per revolution, AMR500 = 500cc

So yes, AMR500 less stressed.
Author:  Brenno [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:02 pm ]
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Hehe amr300 winning!
Author:  bristlenose2008 [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:56 am ]
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Brenno wrote:
Hehe amr300 winning!


would we interesting to see how you fitted it into your engine bay and the list of parts you have used to get the job done.
Author:  JrZook [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:04 am ]
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http://www.keicarshop.com/ nice cheap source for AMRs/pulleys/belts etc
Author:  bristlenose2008 [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:37 pm ]
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Guy in Chile done this setup sing an Eaton 45 and Mini Cooper S intercooler. He explained that this was it was only 1-2PSI and needed to change one of the pulleys to increase it to where he wanted to be.

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